Coronavirus Pandemic

[gilesgoat]

If someone steals your credit card details you can report any fraudulent activity and get reimbursed. Sometimes they will pick up on unusual spending and contact you.

.. except that is valid for CREDIT CARDS NOT for DEBIT CARDS .. .. well up to a point, they did contact me while in Brasil ..

[Little stoned kiwi]

Debit cards are tricky because they are linked directly to your funds rather than credit. But are otherwise exactly the same as a credit card (your debit card will likely have a MasterCard/visa logo). Fraud could mean going without those funds until they are returned.
For online purchases it is wise to use a debit card linked to an account you transfer money into before making a purchase. Or use a credit card and pay the balance each month.

[Cloudane]

IMO prioritise - okay if you have no symptoms then don't take surgical masks that could be used by doctors and people who are actually infected. But if you can make something for yourself (the DIY vac bag thing, a scarf, neck tube, etc) then why not? Wouldn't do any harm. 1% less chance of catching it is still 1% less chance but more importantly if you DO have it and just don't have the symptoms yet then it protects everyone else while you're out shopping. This is why they wear them a lot in Japan as they have a tendency to think of things in terms of "thinking of other people" rather than "thinking about yourself"

Similarly with touching things. If you don't have a lot of disinfecting stuff then prioritise washing your hands and sanitising touch points. But if you have enough and can wipe down food packaging then honestly why not? Another reduction in risk, however small.

My routine when going out for groceries is: wash hands, go to supermarket and park up, wipe handle of trolley, sanitise hands, get shopping, unload, return trolley, sanitise hands, drive home, unload and unpack, wash hands, wipe down food packaging / bottles / tins, wash hands, sanitise door handle and other touch points, wash hands again. OTT, well, maybe, but soap is cheap, lives are priceless, still got plenty of alcohol and bleach etc

[gilesgoat]

This is crazy .. "UK police investigate telecommunications fires

Marianna Spring

Specialist disinformation and social media reporter

We reported earlier about two mobile phone masts torched in England, amid online rumours linking 5G technology to coronavirus. The conspiracies have been debunked by technology and health experts.

Now Merseyside Police has told the BBC that it is launching an investigation after a telecommunications box was set on fire in Aigburth, South Liverpool, on Friday evening. But it's unclear whether the box has anything to do with 5G technology."

We were listening to Alex Jones on its radio ( in USA ) while having food, he was going on and on and on an on with "a number of very expert people" about how 5G technology IS linked to Coronavirus.

Long rant make short : 5G - and all its predecessors 4G, 3G, 2G, 1G - cause "electro magnetic fluctuations" that are so fast and "innatural" that POISON THE CELLS OF YOUR BODY and apparently the virus is "the response of your cells being poisoned that start to throw out shit in the form of virus".

Also "In every mayor event in human kind where mass illnesses happend was in correllation of increase activity of electro magnetic activity" .. apparently the plague was consequnce of Solar Flares activity, The Spanish flu was because of radio technology and the raise of other shit can't remember wtf balooney was talking about was because of the massive use of radio and radar technology during WW2 ...

Also "Viruses are absolutely NOT contagious" apparently that's a myth, it's the electro magnetic poisoning that is happening all time that makes it appear like the virus is spreading in reality is your own body "being poisoned" that reacts like that.

It was going on with antennae disguised as trees and lamp posts, at the incredible power of 5G, how all this "is well known by them" and it's all a plot to de-stabilize humanity and get more control by the New World Order .. and so on and so on ...

All this was basically being repeated many times with occasional "evidence" presented by "knowledgeable scientist" and/or people that "made so many studies over so many years" that ALWAYS been discredited by "THE ORDER" because THEY KNOW IT'S ALL REAL THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW !!

Then of course "Mr Toupee" is the biggest HERO America has ever had, practically a saint, a super-hero, a new messiah sent to save the world , David Icke knows it all "because he has access to knowledge we don't have" and of course ZINC !!! ZINC !!! ZINC that ONLY Infowars.com sells at such a level of quality and purty that nobody else does ( please give us your money so we can continune ) and certain "nutrimed" stuff that nowhere else in the world can be found at such prices.

Now if all that would be comedy you could find it "vaguely entertaining", sadly, it's NOT and/or ABSOLUTELY INSISTS IT'S NOT, that NO bullisht , they are NOT here to entertain you, THIS IS WAR AGAINIST THE NEW WORLD ORDER YOU MUST FIGHT WITH US, THIS IS INFORMATION THEY WANT TO KEEP AWAY FROM YOU IT'S ALL REAL !

If you don't want to listen to Alex Jones you can always tune to that radio station where there's the other guy going all "OH LORD, OH HALLELUJA ! OH AMEN !" talking about "divine punishement" and "end of times" and stuff like that. (*)

He's almost dying, he still keeps going with all that.

Anyway it would appear that "some people BELIEVE in all that" .. there are always some believers if you say things in a certain way ...

(*) no it's not that one "from the other country", it's from USA, 100% Christian guarantee ... it's the word of The Lord he's talking about ..

Meanwhile in Italy I heard "a new level of bullshit", I have to get more info about this, I don't know if it's partially a scam/partially true, if it's true it's even worse than a scam ... there's a new recent thing going on, people that had relatives dying from Coronavirus been contacted via email / phone by "group of lawyers" offering to start causes againist the doctors looking for compensation for the death .. ..

As someone said "to the worse, there's no end" .. ..

[KlaxonCow]

Wait, so Alex Jones is telling folks - on the radio, which uses radio waves that are also the exact same type of electromagnetic waves as 5G, wi-fi and, for pity's sake, sunlight, just at different frequencies - that radio waves are causing coronavirus?

I don't know. If people are dumb enough to buy this, then maybe we should go along with it for our own purposes.

Yes, stop listening to Alex Jones on the radio immediately! Alex Jones is using radio waves to poison you!

Actually, think about it. How does Alex Jones know what all these conspiracies are? How does he know how they all work? Every conspiracy out there and Alex Jones has all the answers.

Clearly, he's part of the New World Order. He's a double-agent for the Illuminati, to help them identify those people - his listeners - who're not falling for the "false flag" distractions, so they can keep an eye on the enemy. Alex Jones is a top member of the Illuminati New World Order - there's no other explanation for why they'd ever let him live, other than that he's being used to flush out those who can see through the Illuminati's plans. He's selling all those products on his website, in order to get names and addresses. They're tracking who's listening to him, to know who'll cause them trouble when Obama steals all the guns to force Communism on everyone for the lizard people!

Stop listening to Alex Jones! He's using radio waves to poison you as a double-agent of the Illuminati! How else could he know all their plans in such perfect detail each and every time?

[Harlequin]

Wait, so Alex Jones is telling folks - on the radio, which uses radio waves that are also the exact same type of electromagnetic waves as 5G, wi-fi and, for pity's sake, sunlight, just at different frequencies - that radio waves are causing coronavirus?

Tsk! Next he will be telling us that electromagnetic waves can create free radicals in our bodies along with burning, cataracts, remote sound perception or even cancers!

Only slightly more seriously, perhaps someone looked up SARs and found references to the Specific Absorption Rates of EM energy by living tissues.

[Barney]

An almost-daily updated info wall of text on Coronavirus:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04 ... ronavirus/

By Beth Mole, so it's well researched and cited.

In particular the sections on How it compares with 'flu (in particular the asymptomatic spread section was a surprise), and a section on whether or not you should wear masks.

Of course, this is just what the experts are saying so if you feel you should be wearing a mask (and don't have any symptoms) then of course you should go with your heart

[gilesgoat]

Wait, so Alex Jones is telling folks - on the radio, which uses radio waves that are also the exact same type of electromagnetic waves as 5G, wi-fi and, for pity's sake, sunlight, just at different frequencies - that radio waves are causing coronavirus?

Tsk! Next he will be telling us that electromagnetic waves can create free radicals in our bodies along with burning, cataracts, remote sound perception or even cancers!

*SNIP*.

Hey I did not quote ALL the radio things he was saying, long and LOT of repetitions but YOU NAILED IT ! HE SAID *ALL* OF THAT !!!

[Harlequin]

An almost-daily updated info wall of text on Coronavirus:
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04 ... ronavirus/
By Beth Mole, so it's well researched and cited.

In particular the sections on How it compares with 'flu (in particular the asymptomatic spread section was a surprise), and a section on whether or not you should wear masks.
Of course, this is just what the experts are saying so if you feel you should be wearing a mask (and don't have any symptoms) then of course you should go with your heart

The US CDC and some health experts now recommend that seemingly healthy people should wear cloth masks/face coverings when out in public, particularly in areas where community-based spread of COVID-19 is occurring.

Though cloth masks are much less effective than medical masks at blocking viral transmission, the CDC and others believe that they may be useful in preventing or at least reducing the amount of viral spread from pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic people.

The CDC guidance does not change the need and recommendation to reserve medical masks for frontline healthcare workers. Cloth masks and face coverings can be made out of fabrics and items already in your home, such as old t-shirts, towels, and handkerchiefs.

The guidance also does not change the need to observe social distancing and hygiene measures.

If the experts are recommending I should wear a lower face covering in public, especially in places like Inner London where I live, who am I to disagree?

The How it compares with 'flu section was also, like the above, updated on Saturday.

Wait, so Alex Jones is telling folks - on the radio, which uses radio waves that are also the exact same type of electromagnetic waves as 5G, wi-fi and, for pity's sake, sunlight, just at different frequencies - that radio waves are causing coronavirus?

Tsk! Next he will be telling us that electromagnetic waves can create free radicals in our bodies along with burning, cataracts, remote sound perception or even cancers!

Hey I did not quote ALL the radio things he was saying, long and LOT of repetitions but YOU NAILED IT ! HE SAID *ALL* OF THAT !!!

In that case, not absolutely he says is bullshit. All the things I listed are known scientific facts related to various EM frequencies.

[Deckard]

So besides the flat Earthears, the anti-VAXeRs and the uFO abductees I now have to follow the 5G nutters I thought it was a problem going from 3G to 4G but boy was I wrong

Well at least I know a new word from this - Nocebo

Which came from nosing at more nutters who are “allergic” to magnetism.

[Harlequin]

Meanwhile, confirmed deaths now seem to include children both five years old and a few months old.

[Deckard]

From the sheer volume it would be more surprising if it didnt include....as presumably a 5 year old has died from lightning strike since this started....I'm not downplaying it just saying...

[PFVA]

It seems Teifi decided to go for a full body mask

Mask?

[PFVA]

The german approach to deal with the coronavirus

From the NYTimes:

A German Exception? Why the Country’s Coronavirus Death Rate Is Low

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/worl ... f-44210925

[Ratsoap]

Bojo has been moved to intensive care.