NOOOOOOOOOO!what COVID-19 - the 19th identified coronavirus-caused disease we know of
It surfaced in 2019. If it had been the second novel coronavirus in 2019, it would be COVID-19-2
NOOOOOOOOOO!what COVID-19 - the 19th identified coronavirus-caused disease we know of

To be fair to them, it got classified as SARS-2 later on, and the takeaway lines (the ones people wanted to hear) were that the majority of people contracting it got "mild, flu-like symptoms". The other information was there, of course, and the scientists were listening to it, but the majority of us only heard "mild, flu-like symptoms".Somehow, the idea "this is the 'flu" got stuck in the heads of politicians in the UK and US, despite the fact that its very name says otherwise.
Oh, oops. Okay, scrub that bit. Pretend it never happened.tufty wrote:It surfaced in 2019.

I don't quite understand what you are saying here, can you rephrase it ?Little stoned kiwi wrote:All that money?
In a user-pays environment, no one has been using much of anything. The only demand for non-use is rent - for land valued at the most that can be borrowed from the banks. "All that money" is as fake as the notes in a monopoly set. Despite a global downturn in activity they still demand their pound of flesh.
Lets rip the fuckers from their homes and make them watch as we burn everything they have.


Immuni, l’applicazione selezionata dal Governo per il tracciamento dei contagi da Coronavirus, resterà volontaria, ma chi sceglierà di non scaricarla potrebbe avere delle limitazioni negli spostamenti. Un incentivo per raggiungere quel 60% di adesioni che viene considerato la soglia minima per garantire l’efficacia del sistema. È quanto riporta oggi il Corriere della Sera.
“Non sono state rese note - lamenta - le valutazioni della ‘task force dati’, sull’efficacia della soluzione tecnologica adottata, le sue effettive finalità, sulla sicurezza dei dati che verranno stoccati in un unico cloud ministeriale”.
Here's a simple thing, that's not being talked about often or mentioned in the, ahem, "press". Singapore and other countries used thermometers to weed out people with a fever before they enter supermarkets (and etc), who then go on for testing (trace.. isolate). Such a simple, effective idea, completely ignored. Also in these countries in schools they take a picture of classes. If a pupil is found to have ye olde COVVY19... trace pupils in promixity from photograph.. isolate.tufty wrote:Its nearest cousins, SARS and MERS do not have an effective treatment, do not have a vaccine, and they are still around. The only way to deal with these is, surprise surprise, "test, trace, isolate".

Yeah, we seem to be operating on the assumption that it's totally lethal and anyone who ever caught it is dead. I said before we need separate queues for <the infected and the recovered> and the uninfected. Do we have them?(o)(o) wrote:Here's a simple thing, that's not being talked about often or mentioned in the, ahem, "press". Singapore and other countries used thermometers to weed out people with a fever before they enter supermarkets (and etc), who then go on for testing (trace.. isolate). Such a simple, effective idea, completely ignored. Also in these countries in schools they take a picture of classes. If a pupil is found to have ye olde COVVY19... trace pupils in promixity from photograph.. isolate.tufty wrote:Its nearest cousins, SARS and MERS do not have an effective treatment, do not have a vaccine, and they are still around. The only way to deal with these is, surprise surprise, "test, trace, isolate".
Instead in the UK - herd stupidity.

British banknotes used to "promise to pay the bearer" its value.Little stoned kiwi wrote:Money isn't real. What is it that we have to pay back?
A thermometer is probably a decent way of weeding out the a significant number of people who are developing the virus or otherwise "asymptomatic", too. 'Cause your body temperature goes up once your immune system kicks in, even if it's not by much.(o)(o) wrote:thermometers to weed out people with a fever
Wouldn't have expected anything different. And that's only for people refusing to install the app - they probably haven't even considered the option of people not having a phone in the first place - even having a non-connected phone is seen as "dubious", not having a phone at all is considered extremely odd, if not downright sinister.gilesgoat wrote:Immuni, the app selected by the Government to track Coronavirus contgagion, for the moment is voluntary but whoever will choose NOT to install it could have limitations of movements.


The first SARS is no more around than smallpox. It does not appear to have been anywhere outside a laboratory for sixteen years. MERS is indeed still active, though, and killing between one and two hundred people a year,tufty wrote:Its nearest cousins, SARS and MERS do not have an effective treatment, do not have a vaccine, and they are still around. The only way to deal with these is, surprise surprise, "test, trace, isolate".

My bro had serious harassement in various places for NOT having a Facebook page !tufty wrote:
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Last year, my work tried to force me to have a work phone. I haven't had a mobile for the last 18 years, it's a deliberate choice, I don't need one or want one, and they make me anxious. It took a serious discussion with director and two union reps before they would back down, and even then I get throwaway close-to-insults about not having a phone on a regular basis.
Well .. to be honest I am not sure if we are already into a lost battle because "all the other 90% are NOT like us and they all gave in", if we'd be "a good % againist all this" maybe we'd be so closely watched as you said.tufty wrote:We're probably terrorists, giles, and almost certainly more closely watched by "them" than anyone who actually has a phone.