Coronavirus Pandemic

[Deckard]

Bit tricky for the scottish tories after that scottish guy had to resign or else it would be double standards - oh hello, this is the tories...

[gilesgoat]

*SNIP* What's hilarious is that Didier Raoult, the anti-vax, bullying, and, above all, self-publicising cherry-picker of results behind the original French study, has been all over the press calling this study "shitty". His own study, of course, covered 24 patients, wasn't blind or double-blind, didn't have any control group, and ignored the patients who died.

TRUE FACTS, speaking as one that knows "more than person" into research/publishing things.

TOO LONG STORY boiling down to these facts :

- you NEED to publish things that has NOT been published already
- NO ONE is going to re-publilsh a second test of something already published, re-checking something that already been said "value 0"
- you publish to get MONEY/to survive/stay afloat/keep credit up/looking good

RESULT :

"it's not much about the experiment, it's more about what you can publish and the value you can get from it"

ERGO :

"if the experiments/tests/etc. DO NOT meet the requirements of 'what would be a good publication' REPEAT it and SELECT
only those results until THEY PERFECTLY FIT THE EXPECTATIONS".

SO :

1000 experiments, 900 gone wrong, 100 gone "as you want", you publish/talk ONLY about those 100 and "the others never existed".

It's not just that "Raoult" that wants to make a point .. is 90% of the research that works like that ...

The 10% execption is in "Physics" and "Math" .. "Math" because "you reason, you prove it, for something proven that are always some N trying to re-check it/maybe disprove it/prove you wrong or good again".

"Physics" beacause "everyone is I DO NOT believe you until I can REPEAT it TOO !"

[Harlequin]

Or, as someone once put it, if the facts do not fit the theory then they must be disposed of.

[tufty]

[KlaxonCow]

Or, as someone once put it, if the facts do not fit the theory then they must be disposed of.

Isn't the quote "if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts"?

[PFVA]

The first time i really had the feeling of "Uau! It's empty" was when i got out of the train station in Lisbon last week. That area because of the train, the underground, the ferries that cross the Tagus, a few bus lines, and of course the tourists is never empty.

Empty

And today from the 219 new cases for the whole country, 96% are in the metropolitan area of Lisbon. It seems that the situation is close to end everywhere else in the country but here. In terms of the total of the cases Porto-Gaia still has the high majority but Lisbon's totals are getting closer every day. It's like there they reached a very high peak fast and then came down, here there was no high peak but it keeps going. I wonder if in the end the total number of cases won't be similar.

[Harlequin]

Or, as someone once put it, if the facts do not fit the theory then they must be disposed of.

Isn't the quote "if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts"?

Not when I first encountered Maier's Law in the seventies in what I think was the first edition of The Book of Lists. The list in question was this one. It would appear that the version you quote did alter my memory a little, as I substituted 'fit' for 'conform to'. There are also apparently two corollaries that were not listed:

1. The bigger the theory, the better.
2. The experiment may be considered a success of no more than 50 percent of the observed measurements must be discarded to obtain a correspondence with the theory.

[Foozwah]

Wish I had your faith, man. I just see too many of these arseholes getting away with it, right across the world these days. Sticking up a middle finger to the population at large, taking a huge shit all over any concept of accountability, then continuing on their merry way once the dust settles. They're fucking laughing at us all, cos they know they're protected and they'll be just fine in the long run.

Would love to be proven wrong though.

DO NOT VOTE FOR THEM !!!

Trust me, I never have. Much to the chagrin of my right-leaning parents, back in the day.

[Ratsoap]

Bit tricky for the scottish tories after that scottish guy had to resign or else it would be double standards - oh hello, this is the tories...

Remember it's less than a year until the Holyrood election. This could simply be the Scottish arm of the party trying to distance themselves for damage control. The rest of the party has another 4.5 years to clean up the mess.

[Little stoned kiwi]

Go ahead, waste your vote on a third party!

[gilesgoat]

Go ahead, waste your vote on a third party!

It's never a waste, if it brings positive change, and it's bad "if you think that things should just remain the same because 2 parties are all we need".

We need MORE/NEW people, better ideas, enough of "old money and old guys doing always the same crap".

I'd vote for green aliens especially if they are the Green Lizards from planet Voltan

[gilesgoat]

Parenthesis ... can anybody explain me this "mania" ?

Ok for *ME* this could WELL be "THE LAST THING IN MY LIFE I CAN THINK OF" .. but for some ( many ) people in UK and Italy as well is like "I am dying if I CAN NOT GO TO THE BARBER FOR A HAIR CUT/FIX" ...

.. and to me is like "WTF YOU TALKIN 'BOUT WILLIS ?" ..

So why people are "so crazy" about haircuts/barbers ?

I can NOT really remember the last time I went to the barber "for a minor adjustment" ( surely under HUGE pressure from my mum NOT because I felt I needed it ) must have been no kidding over 15 years ago.

My hair are anyway going for less and less and getting whiter and whiter, my beard is already on the way of the Greybeards and my mastering of "The Voice" is getting to supreme levels I can shout "FAN-CUL-OH" and destroy walls with that

But seriously "getting insane because can't go to the barber" ?? .. ?? .. ?? ..

Must be said there's one thing that "makes me INSANE TOO!", people telling me "why you don't go to the barber ? Why you hair are like this and not like that ?" ..

If anyone complains the way I look/want to look that makes me immediately go on "the ways of the voice".

I am not here to comform to your style, you are not here to conform to mine, I am what I am you are what you is and things like that

But yeah "on the par of all that" could be "getting insane not being able to watch a classic ballet" .. "getting insane not being able to go to the circus" or "getting insane not to be able to go to Mc Donald" or "getting insane not be able to go to a nail parlour" ..

I'd get insane if places like RS Components or DigiKey or Farnell would close

Horses for courses I suppose but yeah "why barbers so much".

Parenthesis "I don't even know how I look like" nowadays, I avoid the mirror, it could crack, I don't like my face too much anyway, better when I wear my goat mask

[KlaxonCow]

And this is coming from the Daily Mail as well.

[KlaxonCow]

Footage of Dominic Cummings "testing his eyesight" near Barnhard Castle has emerged:

[KlaxonCow]

Even the Daily Star is joining in for a good laugh.