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Sorry to dip back to the renewables thing once more - maybe we need a dedicated thread for this? - but there's been an update to the National Grid video I posted earlier:
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The original National Grid video was 8 years ago, and things have progressed a very long way since then, it seems.

Including that, well, it's a different bloke being interviewed (at home because, of course, coronavirus lockdown), as they now have a dedicated "Energy Intelligence Manager" because now, and increasingly, renewables are contributing vastly more to the Grid - they have occasionally become the majority power source - and this is the way all their future planning is going.

Because, actually, it's not just "reducing carbon emissions", but renewables + grid-level storage (perhaps via more house batteries for people's homes) honestly makes their job way easier to balance supply and demand, when they can instantly "nudge" things back to 50Hz from battery storage.

In a sense, I no longer need to advocate for this stuff so forcefully any more, the Grid is already convinced and just working its way over to the new infrastructure, and pretty much every car manufacturer is now releasing EVs and hybrids (and if battery prices keep dropping this rapidly, it honestly won't be long before EVs are not just in price parity with ICE cars, but actually end up cheaper than them).

We're not there yet, of course. But the forces are already in motion. Because, as I've been trying to say all along, this is simply superior technology with masses of benefits that we'll be better off with a renewable infrastructure, even if we didn't have climate change and "carbon emissions" to be worried about. But we do have that - and, one day, the impending death of fossil fuels and uranium - so, at that point, it becomes a "no choice" / "no brainer" and the sooner we get it sorted, the sooner it's done.
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So Trump is happy to encourage freedom of expression when it comes To mostly white demos about the lockdown Or not being silenced on snapchat or twitter or Facebook but not by NFL players kneeling during games....what a surprise...
More than any other major sports league, the N.F.L. has wrestled in recent years with the issue of race, the lack of African-Americans and other people of color in positions of power in the league and the rights of players to protest social issues on the field. While three-quarters of the league’s players are African-American, nearly every owner is white and several of the most prominent owners are strong supporters of the president.
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This is what some of those militia types are doing with their time:
The Grauniad wrote:The FBI has said there is “no evidence”[, ]NBC News has reported[,] of antifa involvement in violence linked to the Floyd protests and one supposed antifa group posting violent rhetoric on the internet was in fact linked to white supremacists.

But in the Idaho city of Coeur d’Alene groups of 30-50 men armed with semi-automatic weapons have occupied downtown streets on successive evenings this week, guarding against supposed busloads of radical leftists rumored to traveling from cities such as Spokane or Seattle, according to local residents and social media materials obtained by the Guardian.

Videos posted to social media by supporters of the vigilante groups showed dozens of people walking up and down a downtown shopping strip, with many open-carrying AR-15s and other semi-automatic long guns, and sporting tactical apparel.

In a cellphone video, as a videographer pans over the scene, he is heard to say: “If you guys are thinking of coming to Coeur D’Alene, to riot or loot, you’d better think again. Because we ain’t having it in our town.”
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tufty wrote:
merman wrote:non-fatal
The actual official term is "less lethal weapons". In the UK, the current L21A1 "baton round" is around 10 times more likely to cause injury, maiming or death than the previous L5A7 "plastic bullet" / "plastic baton round", which was, of course, more dangerous than the previous "rubber bullet". No idea what the maniacs in the US are firing at people.

I've been hit with an L5A7. It hurt like all hell.
Well, we are still exporting baton rounds and tear gas among other equipment.
166 MPs have signed a letter appealing to Department of Trade to stop the UK exporting such things to the US.
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Deckard wrote:So Trump is happy to encourage freedom of expression when it comes To mostly white demos about the lockdown Or not being silenced on snapchat or twitter or Facebook but not by NFL players kneeling during games....what a surprise...
More than any other major sports league, the N.F.L. has wrestled in recent years with the issue of race, the lack of African-Americans and other people of color in positions of power in the league and the rights of players to protest social issues on the field. While three-quarters of the league’s players are African-American, nearly every owner is white and several of the most prominent owners are strong supporters of the president.
Of course it's like that ... "people with LOT of money" to spend in that (NFL) are white .. not black ...

Dude is MONEY, POWER AND PRESTIGE you are talking about ... in USA ... "of course they are white and president supporters" .. how else could it be ?

Black people in power positions with lot of money supporting the black cause ? In USA ? Are you crazy :wink: ?

They may end up with a black president that would try to make a state supported NHS and/or try to promote guns control in USA ... or could even try to improve social situation of helpless/jobless people ... .. are you insane ? :wink:

Who would ever vote/want a president like that ? :mrgreen:

They need someone shouting "America First" able to send the troups to shoot his own people and buying lot of those batons and making super duper missiles .. that's the kind of "man with balls" they need 8)
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merman wrote:
tufty wrote:
merman wrote:non-fatal
The actual official term is "less lethal weapons". In the UK, the current L21A1 "baton round" is around 10 times more likely to cause injury, maiming or death than the previous L5A7 "plastic bullet" / "plastic baton round", which was, of course, more dangerous than the previous "rubber bullet". No idea what the maniacs in the US are firing at people.

I've been hit with an L5A7. It hurt like all hell.
Well, we are still exporting baton rounds and tear gas among other equipment.
166 MPs have signed a letter appealing to Department of Trade to stop the UK exporting such things to the US.
.. which will be duly ignored or replied with "sorry we can't do that" ?
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p-saurus wrote:
F-ZeroOne wrote:So, I have a question... where are the militias? "The Feds" have called in the military, "teh AUTHORITAHIES" are shooting at "the people" with tear gas and baton rounds, "the people" are being beaten up in the street for exercising their constitutional rights... so where are are all the people with AR-15s defending them? Or are they too busy standing around outside the nearest city hall because they still can't get a haircut?
The militias are white supremacist organizations. I imagine they're itching to start shooting brown people and liberals after the election, but for now, they'll let the police do it for them.
Oh, I know. And as KlaxonCow points out, a militia isn't going to do a lot against a fully equipped, professional army. Guerillas can humiliate and wear down such a force, but on many occasions when a guerilla type force has faced a properly equipped military on the militarys terms, they tend to get curb-stomped.
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These riots are a massive boost for Trump.

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snaff wrote:These riots are a massive boost for Trump.
Every living ex-President - that's Democrat AND Republican - is now endorsing Biden.

His power base is shrinking.

There is now a large, well-funded group of anti-Trump Republicans known as the Abraham Lincoln Project. It shows how bad things are for Trump when his own party are running attack ads against him.


Oh, and this was hilarious. Saturday Trump put out over 200 Tweets or retweets, including one that said Joe Biden wanted to "defund the police". Trump's grasp of the facts is so poor that he failed to notice Biden as VP put forward a Bill that would have increased police funding by $300 million.
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merman wrote:Oh, and this was hilarious. Saturday Trump put out over 200 Tweets or retweets, including one that said Joe Biden wanted to "defund the police". Trump's grasp of the facts is so poor that he failed to notice Biden as VP put forward a Bill that would have increased police funding by $300 million.
That is a pity. I was hoping you were going to portray Trump's mistake as not noticing that police defunding (at least in the sense of reversing the huge funding growth of recent decades and reinvesting in underfunded public services) is increasingly being considered a Good Idea by people beyond party divisions. Biden's bill could therefore be perceived as part of the problem.
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merman wrote:Oh, and this was hilarious. Saturday Trump put out over 200 Tweets or retweets, including one that said Joe Biden wanted to "defund the police". Trump's grasp of the facts is so poor that he failed to notice Biden as VP put forward a Bill that would have increased police funding by $300 million.
Trump's tweets aren't at all concerned about what the facts are, it's about what he wants his twitter followers to perceive the facts to be.
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Dio wrote:
merman wrote:Oh, and this was hilarious. Saturday Trump put out over 200 Tweets or retweets, including one that said Joe Biden wanted to "defund the police". Trump's grasp of the facts is so poor that he failed to notice Biden as VP put forward a Bill that would have increased police funding by $300 million.
Trump's tweets aren't at all concerned about what the facts are, it's about what he wants his twitter followers to perceive the facts to be.
He's not alone in that, lot of politicians are like that .. you said it right it's not about that it IS it's about what you can make people THINK it is.
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That's historically not been true in this country. Being caught in an outright lie required a correction or a resignation.
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Dio wrote:That's historically not been true in this country. Being caught in an outright lie required a correction or a resignation.
Up to around half a decade or so, perhaps, in nominal democracies. The Tramp appears to have demonstrated to other leaders that the supposed requirement for such relative decency was an erroneous assumption.
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Dio wrote:That's historically not been true in this country. Being caught in an outright lie required a correction or a resignation.
Does not seem to work like that any more, look about Brexit .. all those promises .. all those words constantly being broken .. all those lies.

[edit] - just to be clear in Italy you'd be a total fool even pretending something like that should happen "the first thing NOT to believe about are politicians".

Even if they say a truth today, they'll do the complete opposite tomorrow.

[edit2] - seriously politcis and "systems" in general are more and more "something you don't know what/if you should believe in" .. first they are "too much volatile" and even more than that "often they are too weird" :(

Really today "what to vote for ?" .. fuck me "nothing almost" .. nothing represents well what I believe in they are all a bunch of "don't know where to hit my head first".

You ( or at least I ) get more and more the feeling that "nothing works well, all systems are collapsing" and not just "the systems" but quite a bit feel "a lot of non-politicians people are really strange as well" ..

It makes really feel "we are all into some survival mode" NOT "normal living mode", what is "normal" anyway ? For "a lot of people" "normal" is something I'd consider "very abnormal".

It's fucking odd "you want there's something you can truly believe in" .. but there isn't .. "they all lie" at some point and/or they promise unobtaineable things.

There's always this feeling there "some power that never changes" that "is always there doing its own business" regardless of what happens around.
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