Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

[Cloudane]

So the foam pad on my Rift is starting to get annoying. The felt lining is hanging off in places and the nose area won't stay stuck down. I might just peel off the lining and leave the bare foam, and maybe try to do something with the adhesive, but wondering if anyone's replaced theirs.. seemingly only third party replacements exist... and if they're any good?

[Misfit]

So the foam pad on my Rift is starting to get annoying. The felt lining is hanging off in places and the nose area won't stay stuck down. I might just peel off the lining and leave the bare foam, and maybe try to do something with the adhesive, but wondering if anyone's replaced theirs.. seemingly only third party replacements exist... and if they're any good?

I used VRCover.com to replace the inserts on my Quest. I needed something less like a sponge because of the sweat!

[gilesgoat]

So the foam pad on my Rift is starting to get annoying. The felt lining is hanging off in places and the nose area won't stay stuck down. I might just peel off the lining and leave the bare foam, and maybe try to do something with the adhesive, but wondering if anyone's replaced theirs.. seemingly only third party replacements exist... and if they're any good?

I used VRCover.com to replace the inserts on my Quest. I needed something less like a sponge because of the sweat!

I got "the dreadful problem" I think I'll have to try to fix myself

One of the headphones, the left one, stopped working, apparently is a well known/documented factory defect of certain Oculus models where there's a wire that runs across that snaps "by normal use"

[Cloudane]

So the foam pad on my Rift is starting to get annoying. The felt lining is hanging off in places and the nose area won't stay stuck down. I might just peel off the lining and leave the bare foam, and maybe try to do something with the adhesive, but wondering if anyone's replaced theirs.. seemingly only third party replacements exist... and if they're any good?

I used VRCover.com to replace the inserts on my Quest. I needed something less like a sponge because of the sweat!

Cheers. Looking for something in the UK ideally... there are a couple on Amazon but they have mixed reviews. But then everything on Amazon does...

[Jamesac]

Leaked image of a new version of the Oculus Quest, maybe. Or maybe not. To be taken with a grain of salt at the moment but it feels like it could be legit.

[gilesgoat]

Erm .. what makes is so different than the current one apart that is white ??? Looks the same to me ??

[KlaxonCow]

Erm .. what makes is so different than the current one apart that is white ??? Looks the same to me ??

In fairness, you could have looked at a PC box for the last 30 years and said "looks the same to me". You could have even cracked open the side panel and looked inside - and there's not much that, to the untrained eye, has changed with its overall structure.

The expansion slots look a bit different over the decades and the coolers have gotten bigger and stuff, but the point is that you don't really see hardware and software improvements with the naked eye, do you?

A motherboard just look like a motherboard. Unless you recognise the chip numbers then "they all look the same to me".

We can guess at what they've done. Better resolution screen, improved optics, more grunt to the CPU / GPU, improved tracking and that sort of "incremental evolutionary improvement" stuff - particularly with the Quest, as it's capable of standalone operation, so they've probably improved the internals to make it a more capable "PC on your face".

But, yeah, besides now being white, it's not going to appreciably change external appearance because it's still strapping screens to your eyes and holding controllers with hand guards.

What were you expecting? Like, a plug to go in the back of your neck or something? Not there yet.

[gilesgoat]

Erm .. what makes is so different than the current one apart that is white ??? Looks the same to me ??

In fairness, you could have looked at a PC box for the last 30 years and said "looks the same to me". You could have even cracked open the side panel and looked inside - and there's not much that, to the untrained eye, has changed with its overall structure.

The expansion slots look a bit different over the decades and the coolers have gotten bigger and stuff, but the point is that you don't really see hardware and software improvements with the naked eye, do you?

A motherboard just look like a motherboard. Unless you recognise the chip numbers then "they all look the same to me".

We can guess at what they've done. Better resolution screen, improved optics, more grunt to the CPU / GPU, improved tracking and that sort of "incremental evolutionary improvement" stuff - particularly with the Quest, as it's capable of standalone operation, so they've probably improved the internals to make it a more capable "PC on your face".

But, yeah, besides now being white, it's not going to appreciably change external appearance because it's still strapping screens to your eyes and holding controllers with hand guards.

What were you expecting? Like, a plug to go in the back of your neck or something? Not there yet.

I am saying "YOU PUT A PICTURE saying LOOK AT THIS !!" ..

And I am saying "I CAN'T SEE MUCH AT ALL IN THAT !!!"

Sure we speculate of all new under the hood, there has to be something new, but whatever it is is NOT visibile in that PIC, now what I WOULD EXPECT "from a pic is" things like :

- show me a DIFFERENT type of controller

- show me is 1/2 THINNER than the other one

- show me is even more thinner/lighter ..

.. and it isn't .. so at least "nothing much to see there" ..

NOTE : besides, hate that white, I prefer it black, that white looks "So Apple" ..

[edit2] "Open Question" for you and Dio and the rest .. WHAT / WHERE IS the "innovation" in the last .. 3 .. 4 years of PCs ?

I can't see much of it anywhere anyway , I think we really reached a point where "most commercial/home/small business PCs" are what they are and are not going to innovate much.

You got the point I think "you can't put any more cores on PCs" .. and maybe "would not be for VR/super nerds gamers wanting more and more" I don't know where even you could get with GPUs .. ok sure "we are still NOT at TRUE ray-tracing-real-time-4k-per-eye-fitting-in-a-pair-of-glasses" and we'll probably never be there, but once you have "a decent PC" .. "how much far you want to go ?" ..

I think most PCs nowadays could well be their current job in 20 years time or so, I certainly have PCs well over 10 years old and they are still adequate for the needs.

[Jamesac]

Erm .. what makes is so different than the current one apart that is white ??? Looks the same to me ??

In fairness, you could have looked at a PC box for the last 30 years and said "looks the same to me". You could have even cracked open the side panel and looked inside - and there's not much that, to the untrained eye, has changed with its overall structure.

The expansion slots look a bit different over the decades and the coolers have gotten bigger and stuff, but the point is that you don't really see hardware and software improvements with the naked eye, do you?

A motherboard just look like a motherboard. Unless you recognise the chip numbers then "they all look the same to me".

We can guess at what they've done. Better resolution screen, improved optics, more grunt to the CPU / GPU, improved tracking and that sort of "incremental evolutionary improvement" stuff - particularly with the Quest, as it's capable of standalone operation, so they've probably improved the internals to make it a more capable "PC on your face".

But, yeah, besides now being white, it's not going to appreciably change external appearance because it's still strapping screens to your eyes and holding controllers with hand guards.

What were you expecting? Like, a plug to go in the back of your neck or something? Not there yet.

I am saying "YOU PUT A PICTURE saying LOOK AT THIS !!" ..

And I am saying "I CAN'T SEE MUCH AT ALL IN THAT !!!"

Sure we speculate of all new under the hood, there has to be something new, but whatever it is is NOT visibile in that PIC, now what I WOULD EXPECT "from a pic is" things like :

- show me a DIFFERENT type of controller

- show me is 1/2 THINNER than the other one

- show me is even more thinner/lighter ..

.. and it isn't .. so at least "nothing much to see there" ..

NOTE : besides, hate that white, I prefer it black, that white looks "So Apple" ..

[edit2] "Open Question" for you and Dio and the rest .. WHAT / WHERE IS the "innovation" in the last .. 3 .. 4 years of PCs ?

I can't see much of it anywhere anyway , I think we really reached a point where "most commercial/home/small business PCs" are what they are and are not going to innovate much.

You got the point I think "you can't put any more cores on PCs" .. and maybe "would not be for VR/super nerds gamers wanting more and more" I don't know where even you could get with GPUs .. ok sure "we are still NOT at TRUE ray-tracing-real-time-4k-per-eye-fitting-in-a-pair-of-glasses" and we'll probably never be there, but once you have "a decent PC" .. "how much far you want to go ?" ..

I think most PCs nowadays could well be their current job in 20 years time or so, I certainly have PCs well over 10 years old and they are still adequate for the needs.

I actually posted the picture. No, it doesn’t say much other than that a new model is in the works and details may be coming soon-ish, but that’s the difference between “interesting” and “ informative”.

[Jamesac]

Stripping this out of the Moose Life thread-

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/08/ ... book-ties/

All Oculus hardware will need a Facebook account going forward. New users in January, existing ones in 2023. So it looks like whatever is that replaces my trusty CV1, it won't be made by Oculus.

I mean, I've got a Facebook profile but only because my family is on there. I'd be more than happy to log off the site and never look at it again. Even so, while I won't be inconvenienced by this new requirement there's no reason for it to exist and I resent Facebook trying to tie me tighter to its platform. Good hardware, sure, but they're by no means the only game in town.

[gilesgoat]

Stripping this out of the Moose Life thread-

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/08/ ... book-ties/

All Oculus hardware will need a Facebook account going forward. New users in January, existing ones in 2023. So it looks like whatever is that replaces my trusty CV1, it won't be made by Oculus.

I mean, I've got a Facebook profile but only because my family is on there. I'd be more than happy to log off the site and never look at it again. Even so, while I won't be inconvenienced by this new requirement there's no reason for it to exist and I resent Facebook trying to tie me tighter to its platform. Good hardware, sure, but they're by no means the only game in town.

In sentence "Not totally unexpected but IT'S SHIT NEWS " .. it's a pity because I really like Oculus HW ..

Guess we'll have to move into something else by 2023 Maybe by that time Mixed Reality or such will be really better ?

Oh well .. there's still some time until 2023 .. but it's still shit, I don't like it and "the sound of it" .. this is NOT "good shit" this is shit really BAD shit news

[Whiteball]

It is indeed very bad news. I was thinking of possibly 'upgrading' if anything Oculus came along that looked more decent than my CV1 but not now (or ever).

They still have this vision of eveyone chit-chatting on virtual facebook and such but I think they're missing the point. The majority of people that use facebook are not the type of people who want cutting edge VR (or even know anything about VR more than a few letters they've heard someone else muttering).

[MattyP]

Stripping this out of the Moose Life thread-

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/08/ ... book-ties/

All Oculus hardware will need a Facebook account going forward. New users in January, existing ones in 2023. So it looks like whatever is that replaces my trusty CV1, it won't be made by Oculus.

I mean, I've got a Facebook profile but only because my family is on there. I'd be more than happy to log off the site and never look at it again. Even so, while I won't be inconvenienced by this new requirement there's no reason for it to exist and I resent Facebook trying to tie me tighter to its platform. Good hardware, sure, but they're by no means the only game in town.

Well lets face it was to be expected really. Surprised its taken them this long TBH they did make a huge investment with respect to Oculus.

Just hope Valve drop the price of the Index a bit as its too steep for my shallow pockets at the moment... however saying that only bought a Rift S earlier in the year so won't be replacing that for a while anyway. Been happy with it and already have a FB account so not overly concerned. So long as I don't get lots of FB crap (ads and notifications etc) coming though and spoiling my fun.

Someone will hack around it anyway I'm sure so you'll never need to stay in the Oculus eco-system if you don't want to. There are always options.

[LancashireArrow]

Stripping this out of the Moose Life thread-

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/08/ ... book-ties/

All Oculus hardware will need a Facebook account going forward. New users in January, existing ones in 2023. So it looks like whatever is that replaces my trusty CV1, it won't be made by Oculus.

I mean, I've got a Facebook profile but only because my family is on there. I'd be more than happy to log off the site and never look at it again. Even so, while I won't be inconvenienced by this new requirement there's no reason for it to exist and I resent Facebook trying to tie me tighter to its platform. Good hardware, sure, but they're by no means the only game in town.

I was thinking of getting a Rift, but now there’s absolutely no chance.

I do not want or need a Facebook account, and making it obligatory to use hardware is mental. Deleting my Facebook account was one of he best decisions I ever made.

Just read the thread on Slashdot about this and it looks like a huge number of potential users have also decided to drop plans to purchase one too because of this.

[gilesgoat]

Stripping this out of the Moose Life thread-

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/08/ ... book-ties/

All Oculus hardware will need a Facebook account going forward. New users in January, existing ones in 2023. So it looks like whatever is that replaces my trusty CV1, it won't be made by Oculus.

I mean, I've got a Facebook profile but only because my family is on there. I'd be more than happy to log off the site and never look at it again. Even so, while I won't be inconvenienced by this new requirement there's no reason for it to exist and I resent Facebook trying to tie me tighter to its platform. Good hardware, sure, but they're by no means the only game in town.

I was thinking of getting a Rift, but now there’s absolutely no chance.

I do not want or need a Facebook account, and making it obligatory to use hardware is mental. Deleting my Facebook account was one of he best decisions I ever made.

Just read the thread on Slashdot about this and it looks like a huge number of potential users have also decided to drop plans to purchase one too because of this.

I can understand if FB wants to make "their own apps" or "their own store" or such ..

But get the point that "the HW is UNUSEABLE without a FB account" is crap.

Ok we could argue "the same is with PSVR" but PSVR is not "a generic VR thing for PC" is "bound to a console system" even that is debeateable but is never been sold as a "generic VR visor for PC".

There should still be an option to get drivers/updates without necessarly have an FB account also because the way FB works that "does not allow you to put bogus data" and/or share things you may not want to be shared.

Anyway .. "pity" .. it means we'll have to start supporting other devices then ..