Some effects/graphics missing from PS4 version

[mb3018]

I have the Xbox version of Tempest 4000 and I've noticed from youtube videos that some stuff is missing from the PS4 version. For example the bonus level has this splash effect when you go through the rings in the PS4 version but it's missing from the Xbox version. Also I think that the PS4 has more variety to the bonus level background shapes, while the Xbox version has the same ones over and over. There are a few things like that that I've noticed. Like another example the windmill shaped enemies that transform the tube shoot out a swirly explosion when you kill them, on the PS4. The shooting star enemy, same thing, it's missing its death explosion thingy. Stuff like that. Also it seems that the PC version is exactly the same as the Xbox version. So it's possible that maybe the PS4 version of the game is the definitive version of Tempest 4000. But also TxK is nice to have as well.

[gilesgoat]

I have the Xbox version of Tempest 4000 and I've noticed from youtube videos that some stuff is missing from the PS4 version. For example the bonus level has this splash effect when you go through the rings in the PS4 version but it's missing from the Xbox version. Also I think that the PS4 has more variety to the bonus level background shapes, while the Xbox version has the same ones over and over. There are a few things like that that I've noticed. Like another example the windmill shaped enemies that transform the tube shoot out a swirly explosion when you kill them, on the PS4. The shooting star enemy, same thing, it's missing its death explosion thingy. Stuff like that. Also it seems that the PC version is exactly the same as the Xbox version. So it's possible that maybe the PS4 version of the game is the definitive version of Tempest 4000. But also TxK is nice to have as well.

???? .. really ?? .. the code should be the same ... I'll have to have a look at some point ...

[mb3018]

Actually I just played T4K a few minutes ago. The death explosions for every enemy are there, they are there, I think for all of the enemies. It's just that they're very hard to see compared to the PS4 version. They're much softer/smaller in the Xbox/PC version for some reason. But the bonus levels seems like a bug.

[gilesgoat]

Actually I just played T4K a few minutes ago. The death explosions for every enemy are there, they are there, I think for all of the enemies. It's just that they're very hard to see compared to the PS4 version. They're much softer/smaller in the Xbox/PC version for some reason. But the bonus levels seems like a bug.

Hum .. weird ...

About "the definitive version" .. "the definitive version WAS the PS4 + PSVR one" .. THAT was "the definitive version" .. ( or the PC version + VR support ) ..

Unfortunately "nobody will ever see that" but it did exist.

[mb3018]

Hey so after doing a little more research, I think it's just the Xbox version where the enemy explosions look off and are harder to see. I watched some youtube videos of the PC version and they look pretty much the same as the PS4 version, they're fine I think. The only thing is the bonus levels on the PC version seem to be missing some things just like the Xbox version. The splash effect when you go through the rings isn't there, and also for the path bonus level when you cross the red line you're supposed to get that pink effect where everything is pink for a second, and that isn't there on the PC/Xbox version.

[mb3018]

About "the definitive version" .. "the definitive version WAS the PS4 + PSVR one" .. THAT was "the definitive version" .. ( or the PC version + VR support ) ..

Unfortunately "nobody will ever see that" but it did exist.

Yeah I can imagine being in VR at the start of the level and seeing the tube in the distance. It would've been so awesome. That's too bad what happened with the VR version of the game. I'm a big fan of VR for Llamasoft games especially.

[gilesgoat]

About "the definitive version" .. "the definitive version WAS the PS4 + PSVR one" .. THAT was "the definitive version" .. ( or the PC version + VR support ) ..

Unfortunately "nobody will ever see that" but it did exist.

Yeah I can imagine being in VR at the start of the level and seeing the tube in the distance. It would've been so awesome. That's too bad what happened with the VR version of the game. I'm a big fan of VR for Llamasoft games especially.

My only hope is that "something would happen" in a future that or could allow us to re-do it or some IPs would become public domain or simply have to deal with the fact that "we'll never touch Tempest ever again" ( which at the moment is the situation ).

Legally we can't even get close ( or even probably "talk too much" for that matter ) Tempest without consent/approvation from Atari, it's a pity because it was really awesome but certainly also "next time", if there's ever going to be a "next time" I will push hard and be very careful NOT to "undersell" it !

But to be honest I don't know if there's ever going to be any "next time", still if they'd want it they KNOW "we can do it".

[mb3018]

I wish you guys could keep making Tempest games. At least we got Tempest 4000.

[gilesgoat]

I wish you guys could keep making Tempest games. At least we got Tempest 4000.

Yeah "legally we can't" without Atari blessing, they and only they own the "Tempest" IP plus something about "tunnel shooters" as well, fundamentally "do anything that has any element(s) that could be connected to Tempest" and you may have Atari lawyers on you.

But to be honest I think "time to move on different things" we can't do "Tempest" all time

[Foozwah]

But to be honest I think "time to move on different things" we can't do "Tempest" all time

Hopefully it's not sacrilege to say so, but I wholeheartedly agree. I like Tempest/tube shooters, but what I loved most about the Minotaur Project was the sheer diversity of creative outpouring we saw. If a particular game was in a genre that one wasn't super jazzed about, not to worry, because the next one was guaranteed to be something different again.

[mb3018]

Hey so I've been playing the PC version of Tempest 4000 and I've noticed some other differences. You know those cool backgrounds each level has with the different shapes twisting around and flying by? On the Steam/PC version they look kind of blurry and not as vibrant, and don't really look as nice as the Xbox/PS4 versions if I'm being honest. I thought that was one of the coolest things about the game when I originally played it on Xbox, they're like vector shapes and Tempest had a vector monitor. People who played the PC version maybe didn't notice how cool that looks because they're kind of blurry for some reason. Also the little stars that are in the background are brighter on the PC version and cover up the vector shapes a bit so that makes it even harder to see them. I think the Xbox/PS4 version definitely looks nicer as a result.

[mb3018]

For example compare these two videos:

PC Steam version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0LMSk9nFbI

PS4 version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiC1CA9ZycE



See what I mean? Doesn't the PS4 version look a lot nicer?

[PVB]

What sort of PC specs does yours have?

Gfx card, RAM, CPU, monitor size, resolution, pixel density/size and refresh rates will all factor in how it looks.

[mb3018]

I don't think that's why. If you look at any videos of the PC version it just looks a little off compared to Xbox/PS4. Maybe one of the shaders. I blame Atari.