Xbox Series X/S & Playstation 5 (PS5) Thread. Next-Gen 2020

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Deckard wrote:I forgot as a Waitrose partner I get 20% off with JL :) Now to decide which ? TBH I will wait for a few reviews and probably get one after xmas.
Nice discount! :) Wait until the games start coming though that you want to play..... I expect they will be difficult to get until after Xmas anyway....
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Deckard wrote:I forgot as a Waitrose partner I get 20% off with JL :) Now to decide which ? TBH I will wait for a few reviews and probably get one after xmas.
Nice discount. Like Matty says though, you will struggle to get one this side of Christmas and possibly a couple of months into the new year so you have time before having to decide.


I can see this being another generation where I end up getting both. I have a PS5 for launch and I'll probably get an Xbox in a year or three. I was initially tempted by a Series S, but from reports, it seems slightly more limited than I was expecting so I might wait for a Series X mid-gen version instead.
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A bit shite

“Anyone who buys an Xbox Series S will probably find themselves scrambling for extra storage before too long. Or, they'll have to resign themselves to a life of installing and uninstalling a bunch of games.

Now that next-gen consoles are making their way into the wild, we're getting some consumer reports on exactly what we can expect out of the box. Reddit user spead20 was lucky enough to find that their Xbox Series S showed up a week early. Can't complain about that!

Someone asked them how much usable storage the Xbox Series S has out of the box. Spead20 confirmed that 364GB of the console's 512GB SSD is actually usable after system updates are applied. That's 71 percent of an SSD that's already fairly small.

The options are to pony up for the 1TB proprietary SSD, make use of an external USB HDD that doesn't offer game optimizations, or to simply juggle installs. A silver lining is that Microsoft previously confirmed that install sizes will be about 30 percent smaller on Xbox Series S because it won't require 4K texture packs.

But, to frame this against the file size of one of this year's surefire most popular games, Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War is a 136GB install. When we're working with these kind of numbers, you can see how it'll turn into a problem pretty quickly.”
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Deckard wrote:A bit shite
Indeed. As I mentioned earlier, for the price of a Series S and proprietary SSD expansion you could buy a Series X.

TBH I tend to play through one game at a time so the lack of storage wouldn't be a massive pain for me, but for users that feel they need that extra storage, the XS isn't that great of a deal anymore.

Here's hoping SSD prices fall a lot as they are a sizeable proportion of the cost of consoles and PCs going forwards.
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Where SSD is definitely the way forward, that amount of free space on the S just doesn’t cut it.
I understand that MS want a “budget” next gen version, but this will push owners to have to buy the extra memory
That said, I’m not convinced that the PS5 or Series X will have enough space either

Here’s hoping the price of the high-speed SSD plummets soon.
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fog wrote:TBH I tend to play through one game at a time so the lack of storage wouldn't be a massive pain for me, but for users that feel they need that extra storage, the XS isn't that great of a deal anymore.
How is your download speed? A 50-60Gb PS4 game takes a while to download here.. maybe a day.. 2 days.
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Is the 136GB install confirmed as the size on the S? I thought they were going to be clever and not have all the necessary 4k assets installed on the S as it won't need them? (if it is and they do, then how big will the X version be?!)

Clearly, a little thought is going to be needed, an external HD for all the non Series S/X enhanced games and a little more management of what you keep.

I've probably got 3TB of stuff installed on my One X but realistically I'm playing just a few games at a time and loads of that installed will probably never be played.

Of course, I shouldn't need to be thinking/worrying!

And it will be a problem on the PS too, although they are at least letting you have a wider choice of add-on SSD.
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fog wrote:TBH I tend to play through one game at a time so the lack of storage wouldn't be a massive pain for me, but for users that feel they need that extra storage, the XS isn't that great of a deal anymore.
How is your download speed? A 50-60Gb PS4 game takes a while to download here.. maybe a day.. 2 days.
I have Virgin with 200Mbps so downloading games/updates isn't too bad but I'm sure plenty aren't that lucky.

And it looks like I can upgrade to 600+ now with 1Gbps coming soon should I feel the urge, although I won't be giving them more cash for that any time soon.
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My tenants are on 8mb D/L as that is the best you can have at that location.. so how long would their kids take to download Call Of Duty ? It will be an issue for a fair few to be sure...
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Deckard wrote:My tenants are on 8mb D/L as that is the best you can have at that location.. so how long would their kids take to download Call Of Duty ? It will be an issue for a fair few to be sure...
Shouldn't be an issue, as CoD is 18 rated, so the kids won't be playing it... :roll:
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Deckard wrote:My tenants are on 8mb D/L as that is the best you can have at that location.. so how long would their kids take to download Call Of Duty ? It will be an issue for a fair few to be sure...
My D/L speed is about double that, yea live out in the sticks..

I'd say 2-3 days for 60Gb something of that order...
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Misfit wrote:
Deckard wrote:My tenants are on 8mb D/L as that is the best you can have at that location.. so how long would their kids take to download Call Of Duty ? It will be an issue for a fair few to be sure...
Shouldn't be an issue, as CoD is 18 rated, so the kids won't be playing it... :roll:
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fog wrote:TBH I tend to play through one game at a time so the lack of storage wouldn't be a massive pain for me, but for users that feel they need that extra storage, the XS isn't that great of a deal anymore.
How is your download speed? A 50-60Gb PS4 game takes a while to download here.. maybe a day.. 2 days.
Not a problem luckily. Like Misfit, I'm with Virgin and currently have 350Mbps with 1Gbps available soon. Not that I need anything faster mind.
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I think I am gearing towards the monthly MS X plan for 29 quid a month but I am pretty platform agnostic so might wait till the new year and see if either grabs me from the reviews / friends feedback or must have games.
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Deckard wrote:I think I am gearing towards the monthly MS X plan for 29 quid a month but I am pretty platform agnostic so might wait till the new year and see if either grabs me from the reviews / friends feedback or must have games.
No stock on the plan or the online shops right now (although I guess they may get more as the actual shops can't open to sell their stock!)

So I think you'll be forced to wait!
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