Xbox Series X/S & Playstation 5 (PS5) Thread. Next-Gen 2020

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Re: Xbox Series X/S & Playstation 5 (PS5) Thread. Next-Gen 2

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Deckard wrote:I think I am gearing towards the monthly MS X plan for 29 quid a month but I am pretty platform agnostic so might wait till the new year and see if either grabs me from the reviews / friends feedback or must have games.
No stock on the plan or the online shops right now (although I guess they may get more as the actual shops can't open to sell their stock!)

So I think you'll be forced to wait!
I wonder when we will get figures? Is the demand high or supply fairly low?

I still remember way back to the announcement of the PS4 and XBox One and having an argument with someone on here who was convinced console gaming was dead and mobile gaming was the future, and they weren't alone. :)
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Quite a few reviews of the Xbox up now and pretty much all saying the same thing - great console but same old same old really (at the moment). Fire it up and get the same interface and no exclusive games which for me on day one I’m looking for that system selling new Zelda or mario.....def going to wait....

I’m surprised they didn’t update the joystick very much compared to Sony too and this “ Although the controllers are still not rechargeable themselves, as ever requiring 2xAA batteries” - really ?

“ The launch lineup is disappointing, lacking any ‘must-have’ exclusives or brand-new titles that will make you want to run out and buy the new Xbox on day one. To truly get the most out of the Xbox Series X at launch, we advise picking up an Xbox Game Pass subscription that enables you to access hundreds of games for a monthly fee – we found it helps soften the blow of this poor launch lineup, though this will see you playing older titles on your new console rather than brand-new games, even if some games are optimized.

The lack of Halo Infinite, or any other big-hitting Xbox exclusives, is very noticeable once the novelty of the hardware improvements wears off. In addition, we’d like to have seen more of an overhaul of the dashboard and UI, to really drive home the fact that this is a whole new generation of console.

Microsoft’s flagship console is as powerful as you’d expect, then, but we’d hold off on buying one at launch unless you’re already heavily invested in the Xbox ecosystem, or simply want the best Xbox console experience possible right now. For everyone else, it may be worth waiting until the next-gen games library becomes more substantial.”

“ Xbox Series X review: it’s brilliant, but where’s all the fun new stuff?”

And fuck me people moan about apple price gouging - 220 quid for a drive expansion ? FFS
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And if you decide to avoid the expensive SSD drive upgrade - oh dear...
an external drive cannot play games with the sort of optimisations common to next-gen technology - such as ray-tracing, 4K 60fps graphics, and the like. If you store Xbox games on an external USB drive, you will have to forego any next-generation enhancements.

Only the official Storage Expansion Card works with those - beyond the internal storage itself.
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But you can, apparently, archive games to a vanilla external drive and pull it back later. Not wildly convenient but a jolly sight faster than re-downloading.
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Deckard wrote: The lack of Halo Infinite, or any other big-hitting Xbox exclusives, is very noticeable once the novelty of the hardware improvements wears off.
Still confused about why game sites are flagging the lack of a last-gen game as being a bad thing for their new console. If HI had been Series exclusive then fair play, but it was absolutely not :-/
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venusian wrote:But you can, apparently, archive games to a vanilla external drive and pull it back later. Not wildly convenient but a jolly sight faster than re-downloading.
Not on the ps5 at launch you can’t unlike the X

“ PlayStation 5 does not let you move a PS5 game from the internal SSD to an external drive in any way, meaning you cannot back them up or archive PS5 games and can only delete them if you need to clear SSD space for something else”
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venusian wrote:But you can, apparently, archive games to a vanilla external drive and pull it back later. Not wildly convenient but a jolly sight faster than re-downloading.
Not on the ps5 at launch you can’t unlike the X

“ PlayStation 5 does not let you move a PS5 game from the internal SSD to an external drive in any way, meaning you cannot back them up or archive PS5 games and can only delete them if you need to clear SSD space for something else”
Not good. They have mentioned the ability to do that previously so will no doubt be added, but features like that really should be there at launch. No folders either.

Meanwhile, the Dualsense controller is getting great reviews everywhere making it and Astro's Playroom the best controller and pack-in game since the Wii (although there's not much competition)

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Rhythm wrote: Still confused about why game sites are flagging the lack of a last-gen game as being a bad thing for their new console. If HI had been Series exclusive then fair play, but it was absolutely not :-/
Outside of the AstroBot game is there anything available at launch on the two consoles that you can't get for the older versions?

MS seems committed to having games work through the family of devices, PS seems more into next-gen exclusives, but where are they? Spiderman is coming to PS4 and 5.

Consoles are getting more like PCs now, this gen is like upgrading to an SSD. putting in a new graphics card and a faster processor but all pretty much the same.

We'll get faster loading, higher resolutions, better frame rates, but essentially there is nothing new (Maybe the Dual Sense on the PS5 will change some things?). The old consoles will play the games, just not quite as prettily.
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So, anyone getting a Xbox today?

Mine is out for delivery, so expect some arguments in the living room when I set it up tonight!

Part of me thinks I should have bought a Series S for an easier life. :lol:
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Possibly the best news I've heard so far, the PS5 is quiet!

When I dusted off the original PS4 to wipe down for selling I was reminded how incredibly noisy it was, like a small jet engine, I almost thought it was broken and had to play a few things to assure myself it was all up to speed. I have gotten used to the PS4 pro which is only quite bad!

I guess that is why it is so big. Must admit I hadn't realised that. It's not going to fit in a lot of cabinets either!

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I think its an odd thing to launch without a system selling game - I find it hard to imagine that Nintendo would ever do that. Running older games at a slightly better rez or frame rate doesnt make me think lets spend 400 quid plus...

Both those designs are ugly stick bad too....I know I am sounding negative but I am sure shortly there will be something to pull me over - Could already be here with Last Guardian at 60 FPS actually :)
The Last Guardian on PlayStation 5 runs at 60fps - but only if you have the disc.
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Misfit wrote:So, anyone getting a Xbox today?

Mine is out for delivery, so expect some arguments in the living room when I set it up tonight!

Part of me thinks I should have bought a Series S for an easier life. :lol:
By some strange twist of fate and indecision on my part yes! :)

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So decided to leave the PC for a year or so as it does run pretty much all my VR stuff well enough and is more than fine for work stuff. Just won't do 4K and the shines at all. Coupled with the fact I have lots of Xbox digital content I've bought over the years to play decided to go the Xbox Series X route. So expected to wait until after Christmas however managed to snag one yesterday so it should be arriving today. Christmas just came early from me! Should be here today at some point. Happy days. Looking forward to a fast loading console with 4K 60fps goodness.
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MattyP wrote: By some strange twist of fate and indecision on my part yes! :)

After deliberating over the months about upgrading my PC decided it isn't really going to happen because of funds and trying to get ahold of a GPU at a semi-sensible price.

So decided to leave the PC for a year or so as it does run pretty much all my VR stuff well enough and is more than fine for work stuff. Just won't do 4K and the shines at all. Coupled with the fact I have lots of Xbox digital content I've bought over the years to play decided to go the Xbox Series X route. So expected to wait until after Christmas however managed to snag one yesterday so it should be arriving today. Christmas just came early from me! Should be here today at some point. Happy days. Looking forward to a fast loading console with 4K 60fps goodness.
The only thing I can predict with you is you're likely to be unpredictable! ;)

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Deckard wrote:I think its an odd thing to launch without a system selling game - I find it hard to imagine that Nintendo would ever do that. Running older games at a slightly better rez or frame rate doesnt make me think lets spend 400 quid plus...

Both those designs are ugly stick bad too....I know I am sounding negative but I am sure shortly there will be something to pull me over - Could already be here with Last Guardian at 60 FPS actually :)
The Last Guardian on PlayStation 5 runs at 60fps - but only if you have the disc.
It does. However there is lots of content I haven't yet played. Plus the experience of using it to play games will be so much better with the SSD. So more like a PC upgrade than anything else. In fact the series X is my gaming PC upgrade really as it's much more powerful than the PC I have at the moment in terms of raw gaming performance. Looking forward to playing some Forza Horizon 4 again in super shiny mode.
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Misfit wrote:
MattyP wrote: By some strange twist of fate and indecision on my part yes! :)

After deliberating over the months about upgrading my PC decided it isn't really going to happen because of funds and trying to get ahold of a GPU at a semi-sensible price.

So decided to leave the PC for a year or so as it does run pretty much all my VR stuff well enough and is more than fine for work stuff. Just won't do 4K and the shines at all. Coupled with the fact I have lots of Xbox digital content I've bought over the years to play decided to go the Xbox Series X route. So expected to wait until after Christmas however managed to snag one yesterday so it should be arriving today. Christmas just came early from me! Should be here today at some point. Happy days. Looking forward to a fast loading console with 4K 60fps goodness.
The only thing I can predict with you is you're likely to be unpredictable! ;)

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Indeed that I am! :) Not saying *anything* about PS5 yet. But I do like my Xboxes. :)

I think this was meant to happen for some reason... How else could I get one without a pre-order day before launch. It was a sign. :D
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