Trump

[tufty]

[merman]

Supreme Court briskly chucks out another Trump appeal, while many senior lawyers are saying the latest suit filed in Texas - trying to overturn results in the four key battleground states - is frivolous and pointless.

Trump lost. No fraud.

[gilesgoat]

Supreme Court briskly chucks out another Trump appeal, while many senior lawyers are saying the latest suit filed in Texas - trying to overturn results in the four key battleground states - is frivolous and pointless.

Trump lost. No fraud.

Yesterday I saw a well explained but quite depressing video from a lawyer about "can Trump pardon himself/his family/etc. whatever he wants in any way / etc ?" .. well .. the short answer is "Yes he can" with the added "and there's pretty much nothing anyone can do about it" (*) because the law/constitution allows it.

Even if "he gets money and/or gifts in exchange for pardons" he can do it perfectly within the law and "nobody can say a thing about it".

Apparently law allows him even to "pardon for future things" like "I pardon myself should I be found guilty of" ..

The problem in this case "more than Trump himself" is the fact the USA laws/constitution and how the pardon is made there allows all this perfectly, it's actually designed for this.

It was kinda "meant to be used sparsly by wise and virtuous men" .. .. it's been overabused since ..

(*) only an empechment could stop it but he can pardon himself before so he can not be impeached .. or shit like that .. it's hopeless.

[Harlequin]

Supreme Court briskly chucks out another Trump appeal, while many senior lawyers are saying the latest suit filed in Texas - trying to overturn results in the four key battleground states - is frivolous and pointless.

Trump lost. No fraud.

The text of that decision by the Supreme Court of the United States in full:

Code: Select all

(ORDER LIST: 592 U.S.)

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2020

ORDER IN PENDING CASE

20A98 KELLY, MIKE, ET AL. V. PENNSYLVANIA, ET AL.

The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied.

It gets better. Later in the same "election hearing", Rudy Guilianni loudly farts - twice - while presenting his case.
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Yeah, I know. It doesn't quite seem real. As if someone's dubbed in some fart noises later. But it's there in the original footage, reported by everyone, and the face of the woman next to him suggests that, yeah, Rudy thought he could sneak out a "stealth fart" by doing it while he's talking, so his voice would hide the sound, but he underestimated just how audible it would be.

It might be that he was only seeking to emulate his master.

Unlike Tramp's unicorn posture, the padded shapelessness around his groinal area has often caught my attention during his tenure. In recent days, possibly due to greater opportunities to shoot him from the side when sitting, #DiaperDon has trended on Twitter. It would seem that we now have an explanation for the overly long ties and jackets, which tend to obscure the shape of his trouser area. For, according to one (albeit unreliable) witness:


The referenced Erdoğan event would appear to be around 1:25 into this:


As for Feinstein, though, turn up the volume and listen very carefully around 1:03, then watch:


Evidence suggests that the infamous picture of his soiled trousers on a golf course was faked (not least because of the apparent under-trouser protection). The alleged claims of witnesses that they heard the shart, however, might not in themselves be false.

[snaff]

Supreme Court briskly chucks out another Trump appeal, while many senior lawyers are saying the latest suit filed in Texas - trying to overturn results in the four key battleground states - is frivolous and pointless.

Trump lost. No fraud.

Yesterday I saw a well explained but quite depressing video from a lawyer about "can Trump pardon himself/his family/etc. whatever he wants in any way / etc ?" .. well .. the short answer is "Yes he can" with the added "and there's pretty much nothing anyone can do about it" (*) because the law/constitution allows it.

Even if "he gets money and/or gifts in exchange for pardons" he can do it perfectly within the law and "nobody can say a thing about it".

Apparently law allows him even to "pardon for future things" like "I pardon myself should I be found guilty of" ..

The problem in this case "more than Trump himself" is the fact the USA laws/constitution and how the pardon is made there allows all this perfectly, it's actually designed for this.

It was kinda "meant to be used sparsly by wise and virtuous men" .. .. it's been overabused since ..

(*) only an empechment could stop it but he can pardon himself before so he can not be impeached .. or shit like that .. it's hopeless.

Luckily he hasn't done any crimes.

[tufty]

Acceptance of a presidential pardon is acceptance of guilt.

[skab]

Luckily he hasn't done any crimes.

Except the ones he did, of course.

He can pardon himself, but only for federal crimes. The investigations against the Trump organization in NY are on state level.

[gilesgoat]

Acceptance of a presidential pardon is acceptance of guilt.

Nays ... according to what that lawyer was explaining "not quite so clear cut in USA" .. in fact some interpretation of the law seem to say that "the pardon cleanses ALL the criminal things" .. some other lawyers/legislators "seems to imply that acceptance of pardon means also acceptance of guilt".

But "what a moral interpretation could say" it's really quite different than what the law actually says, so "maybe yes" from a "personal point of view" but "it's more to the level of no" from a law point of view.

I am afraid we could say "the laws are properly rigged" in that sense, there's no escape, only a re-writing of the USA constitution could do that.

NOTE THAT : at least in Italy, that's FAR from impossible and even FAR from "no we don't do it" .. actually in Italy we may have more "the risk" of certain people more than willing to fully change some "delicate parts" of it.

Some thing could be done "for the better", some other "for the worse" .. on "for the better" could be "trying to change the definition of family" ( which I am not sure how they went around it ) to put it bluntly "a same sex couple in Italy can NOT form a family" if we go to watch what the Italian Constituion defines about what "family" is, which VERY SPECIFICALLY talks about "different sex involved".

And there were people willing to change that.

On the same side, there were other people more than willing to change other things like to make "the life of certain people much more difficult" .. so it's always a bit of a minefield touching that but yeah can be done.

[snaff]

https://bbcmews.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55254182

Of all things they're investigating Hunter's taxes. I wonder if it's an Al Capone type thing.

[KlaxonCow]

https://bbcmews.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55254182

Umm, all the pictures on that site are of cats and kittens.

You do know you've linked to "BBC Mews" and not BBC News there, right?

Although, in fairness, it does seem sourced from the real BBC News here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55254182

[Misfit]

https://bbcmews.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55254182

Umm, all the pictures on that site are of cats and kittens.

You do know you've linked to "BBC Mews" and not BBC News there, right?

Although, in fairness, it does seem sourced from the real BBC News here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55254182

BBCMews! Love it. It's made sticking with the thread worthwhile.

Although I'm outraged, in this day of equality, where is the dog version?! I want cute puppies on my news stories...

[Foozwah]

https://bbcmews.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55254182

Of all things they're investigating Hunter's taxes. I wonder if it's an Al Capone type thing.

The forum's least-effectual troll is the unintentionally humorous gift that keeps on giving.

[ThetaReactor]

Surely if Hunter were innocent he'd be decrying this RIGGED WITCH HUNT!!!11 on Twitter. Obviously guilty. SAD.

[Foozwah]

Surely if Hunter were innocent he'd be decrying this RIGGED WITCH HUNT!!!11 on Twitter. Obviously guilty. SAD.

At a press conference held at Marriot International Plumbing Supplies .

[snaff]

It's all unravelling for the Biden crime family and their communist masters.