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Harlequin wrote:Has Dominion done so?
They may not have just yet. However, their CEO (I think) was being interviewed in various hearings, and in one that I was watching, was being very clear about the fact he was going to take every legal avenue available to him to clear his company's name. He mentioned Faux by name, but also, made some not very veiled threats against soon-to-be-private-individual Trump and his legal team.
And meanwhile, notorious leftists Newsmax TV have, if not actually debunked, suddenly decided to mention the counter-afguments and undisputable facts regarding the claims they'd previously made against Dominion and Smartmatic.
Since election day, various guests, attorneys and elected officials have appeared on Newsmax TV and offered opinions and claims about Smartmatic and Dominion Systems, both companies that offer voting software in the U.S.

Newsmax would like to clarify its news coverage and note it has not reported as true certain claims made about these companies.

There are several facts our viewers and readers should be aware. Newsmax has found no evidence either Dominion or Smartmatic owns the other, or has any business association with each other.

We have no evidence Dominion uses Smartmatic’s software or vice versa.

No evidence has been offered that Dominion or Smartmatic used software or reprogrammed software that manipulated votes in the 2020 election.

Smartmatic has stated its software was only used in the 2020 election in Los Angeles, and was not used in any battleground state contested by the Trump campaign and Newsmax has no evidence to the contrary.

Dominion has stated its company has no ownership relationship with the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's family, Sen. Dianne Feinstein's family, the Clinton family, Hugo Chavez, or the government of Venezuela.

Neither Dominion nor Smartmatic has any relationship with George Soros.

Smartmatic is a U.S. company and not owned by the Venezuelan government, Hugo Chavez or any foreign official or entity.

Smartmatic states it has no operations in Venezuela. While the company did election projects in Venezuela from 2004 to 2017, it states it never was founded by Hugo Chavez, nor did it have a corrupt relationship with him or the Venezuelan government.
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There are problems with the current Coronavirus relief bill going through Congress, but Trump is attacking it for the wrong reasons - because it’s led by Democrats.

The real problem with it is how little it gives to ordinary Americans.
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merman wrote:There are problems with the current Coronavirus relief bill going through Congress, but Trump is attacking it for the wrong reasons - because it’s led by Democrats.

The real problem with it is how little it gives to ordinary Americans.
Much as I hate Trump, he's pushing to raise the award from $600 to $2000
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Indeed, and I think it's as likely he's pushing for that to poke McConnell in the eye as it is the democrats; he's the one who's been fighting the bill in the first place so he's gonna to stand up in front of the American people and say no to something that will rightly be popular. Makes Trump look like a hero, makes Mitch the traitor (to the cause of the Donald) look like a cunt. What's to lose?
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My feelings about Trump should be clear, and hes almost certainly doing it for self-promotion, but I can give him credit for trying to get it raised. It actually caused one of the very, very rare instances where Nancy Pelosi agreed with him!
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The reason for this is simple - the cheques look like this:

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They are made to look to some extent like they come personally from Trump. And it works. I saw a stat that in the election, 3% of Trump voters said they voted for him only because his name was on that check.
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And it’s fucked. GOP blocked. Let’s see if he vetoes.
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Veto? He's run off to Florida. Will he return? Whether he intends a pocket veto or not, it looks like it might happen. We'll see what happens when the House actually votes on the check increase Monday.
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tufty wrote:
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They're doubling down.
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What the Donald giveth...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55454720

He hasn't approved the relief bill. Which had bipartisan support. Is $2000 better than $600? Yes. Is $600 better than sod all? Also yes.
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He's burning the house down. Not signing this "because he wanted $2000 and the republicans said no" makes him look good to his base, even though he's now ensuring $0 for the poor (who he despises anyway). In addition, he gets to utterly fuck everyone over, and doesn't need to veto anything - all he needs to do is go golfing instead of signing anything and run the clock out - once it goes past the 10 days he has, congress is done, and all legislation not passed goes back to square one. It will all have to be negotiated again.

Makes him look good to his base, fucks over the poor and his political enemies, is going to make things hard for Biden, and requires nothing but golf. Why would anyone expect him to do anything else?
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So he's finally caved and signed the bill.

In other news, even Murdoch's press have dumped him.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-u ... e-nations/
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Some post-pardon vitriol

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"Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!"

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/0 ... ion-454122

He was recorded pressuring Georgia elections official to change the result of the election. This is, very likely, pretty illegal.
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How the fuck will we (the USA) ever recover from this embarrassing shitbag :cry:
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