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[Harlequin]

The clip of the lady who was so unfairly maced when all she was taking part in was a violent revolutionary insurrection also featured in Colbert's piece:




Someone else who did not seem to understand that such things might be less than legal:

[KlaxonCow]

One of those people who died at the US Capitol riot has been revealed to be a police officer.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/poli ... index.html

Prosecutors in the US Attorney's office plan to open a federal murder investigation into the death of Brian D. Sicknick, a US Capitol Police officer who died Thursday night, a law enforcement official tells CNN.

So these idiots are in more trouble than they might imagine, as we all know that cops don't take kindly to cop killings and go the extra mile for one of their own.

(And Trump - whose White House has not lowered their flag to half-mast, as the US Capitol has in honour of Sicknick - might find some greater resistance to his orders from now on, from the local police force, even if he is the Commander-in-Chief until the 20th.)

[Harlequin]

One of those people who died at the US Capitol riot has been revealed to be a police officer.

I think he died after the first four, collapsing from a head injury after he had returned to the station.

[merman]

Woman distressed that her "revolution" was mildly resisted by the authorities:



But nice of her to confirm her involvement, first name and where she lives for the cameras, as that'll make arresting her so much easier.


Apparently, none of these Trump supporters are aware of their 5th amendment rights to not be compelled to self-incriminate.



Ironically, if only they'd worn their face masks, they might have gotten away with it.

Because, yeah, in the midst of all this, let's remember that there's a global pandemic going on and 3,000 people - equivalent to the deaths from 9/11 - are dying every day in America right now.

I have seen several people on social media say that
- it’s not her real name, she’s a known QAnon sympathiser from another state
- she didn’t get maced, she rubbed an onion in her face


So the Democrats will start impeachment proceedings on Monday. It’s unlikely to have time to complete, but it could cost Trump a lot - his pension, his state library, his travel fund and his protection detail as an ex-President.

(Saw one American political correspondent respond to the question - why bother so late in his term?
His reply - it sets a PRECEDENT to show that the President cannot foment an insurrection...)

[merman]

Note: I missed out another important point from that list of problems for Trumpy if he is impeached again - he could lose the right to run again in 2024.

QAnon Shaman charged.

[(o)(o)]

"Electricity"

Right....

Have there been any studies on the IQ of Trump supporters?

Some of them seem a bit, well....

[Mat]

I would point out that a lot of their actual inventions also came from relocated Nazi scientists after WWII, but I think they'd probably see that as a bonus.

[F-ZeroOne]

The invention that made electricity usable on an everyday basis was invented by someone with Serbian origins. He was an immigrant to America, y'know, one of those people Trump tried so very, very hard to stop from coming to America?

And thats just one of the things thats wrong in that tweet.

Edit: also, automobiles in general require roads to be usable on. I'm not sure exactly how road-building works in the US but I would imagine some form of government is involved to some degree?

[gilesgoat]

They'll never beat him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_da_Vinci

I think the first working battery been invented by Alessandro Volta ( Italian ) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alessandro_Volta
based on the studies of Luigi Galvani ( Italian ) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani and I think the first working
DC generator ( dynamo ) was invented by Antonio Pacinotti ( Italian ) in 1860 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Pacinotti

Telephone it's very highly disputed "in terms of who/how managed to patent it first" but Italy considers its inventor Antonio Meucci ( Italian ) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Meucci

The radio as we know been invented by Guglielmo Marconi ( Italian ) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi

First working commercial television probably been done in USA but based on many studies and developments made in Europe ( a lot in UK ) , also they got the worst of all the systems, NTSC, largely improved by PAL ( German ) / SECAM ( French ) .

Of course we know the first artificial Satellite was Sputnik 1 ( Russian ) and it's maybe true that USA "would never had such a push" in space tech without Germany and the war ( and *ahem* "stolen" german tech / scientists ).

The first ever working nuclear reactor was made thanks to the team/studies of Enrico Fermi ( Italian ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi

There's no doubt that a lot of things been developed in America but considering America is nearly "all a country made from immigrants" ( let's for the moment "forget" what happened to the REAL/local populations of America ) it's also ironic they made "so much fuss about immigraion" where "by logic" "they should have ZERO control on it" given that "they all came and took whatever they could have taken".

I mean "look no further than the history of how america was made" ... it's ALL about "immigrants" all the local true native populations been almost completely wiped out and suffered the worst fate ...

So "with what face you can be so fussy about someone trying to come there looking for whatever" .. you all done that ... and/or all those before you.

[Deckard]

Never sure how Christians square with guns tbh....but then I remember the rich man eye of the needle stuff from early school so I am sure anything can go...

[KlaxonCow]

There's some growing evidence that this was a genuine bona fide coup attempt, not just a "protest" that went bad.

That is, they've discovered that some of the rioters brought along handcuffs, which strongly suggests they were intending to take hostages. And they even set up a noose and gallows outside, while many of the rioters were heard (caught on footage) chanting "hang Mike Pence" and were looking for Nancy Pelosi to "string her up".



Also, of course, if it was a spontaneous protest that went South, then why the pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails? That's clear evidence of pre-meditation.

They wanted it to appear as if it was a protest that got out of control, but there's growing evidence that this was pre-planned and the idea was to go in there, take hostages, maybe even execute people. And, well, why bring Molotov cocktails to a siege? Maybe burn the place down, with members of Congress locked inside?

Then, you know, the legislative branch would be gone, the "traitor" Vice-President would be gone. Trump alone would be the government. Then he could bring in "emergency powers" and take control.

Much like Guy Fawkes - who targeted the opening of Parliament because everyone would be there. The King, all the members of Parliament. Take 'em all out in one go. Or, indeed, of course, Hitler and burning down the Reichstag, to justify the Enabling Act.

We can - and should - laugh at the big orange man baby. But there's growing reason to suspect this isn't just a sore loser egging on a "protest" that got out of hand. They were going in for hostages, besieging the heart of American democracy under violent control and there's hints that they were planning to execute people.

This could also possibly explain the other strange thing about the US Capitol riots. How the cops put up so little resistance and almost let them get in.

I reckon that the security services - the CIA or FBI or whoever - got wind of these plans to storm the US Capitol and they concentrated on evacuating everyone to safety super-fast, and then just let them in. It's an empty building. No hostages. What are you going to do now?

Telling the cops not to fight them. Because if the cops came in heavy then the rioters would have fought back, and many more people would have died and been injured.

No, they knew or suspected this was coming. So they concentrated on getting everyone to safety fast, and issued a "don't fight back" order to the cops. As long as everyone's out, then let them have the building. It's the most peaceful way to bring this to an end.

An ancient strategy. Let the enemy storm the castle, only for them to find that there's nobody and nothing left in the building. Okay, you have an empty building. What are you going to do now?

Let them wander around like tourists, accept that there's going to be some petty vandalism and then wait for them to realise that they've failed, get bored and leave.

Trump needs to be impeached. There's growing evidence to suggest that this was very much pre-planned and that plan involved taking hostages and handcuffing them, and possibly even executions. He was trying to take America by force. Actual tyranny.

[KlaxonCow]

Nice one, Arnie. And he's a Republican too, so all the more impressive.

(They really need to change the rules, so that Arnie could become the President. Because THAT is the speech of a true Patriot and President. The best President-who-can-never-be.)

[tufty]

Evidence from those in congress who were rushed out to safety at the last minute puts the lie to the idea that the building was already empty. Why didn't they fight back harder? Why did some of them let the insurgents in?

2 words.

"Incompetence" and "complicity".

Meanwhile the vast majority of charges being levelled, apart from a very few cases of firearms and other weapons, are misdemeanour. So "feet on Pelosi's desk" guy is probably looking at 18 months max, and that's for lifting an envelope. Compared to, say, someone who might not be terribly "white", involved in toppling a statue of a slave owner, who would be looking at 10 years, minimum.

[Harlequin]

Never sure how Christians square with guns tbh....but then I remember the rich man eye of the needle stuff from early school so I am sure anything can go...

Yep. The camel-hair ropes.

Evidence from those in congress who were rushed out to safety at the last minute puts the lie to the idea that the building was already empty.…

My understanding is that they were not actually rushed out but sheltered within the building (or, possibly, underneath it).

[gilesgoat]

I DARE to say that "what we are seeing is exactly what America deserves" IN THE SENSE THAT BLM and "Proud Boys" are the two opposite faces of the same "bad story" called "extreme capitalism".

Trump, Proud Boys, BLM, Antifa, mad conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, negationists ... they are all expressions of "a society/system gone totally wrong" .. it proves .. "that extreme capitalism DOES NOT WORK" that you can NOT made "a whole society based on profit and money alone" !

Why in USA "socialism ideas" sound SO BAD ?

When "a bit of social caring issues - WITHOUT PROFIT - is ALWAYS needed" ?

What do they fear of ? That they can't go "super mega rich ?" .. that "there's no rich that is rich enough ?" ..

Mah .. anyway "what we see is the product of the times" .. "you don't get there if things are not going bad" and they are, since long time !

MAYBE all this will make some changes, MAYBE at least "all this shit proves that there's shit that needs to get fixed" .. will it get fixed "properly" ? .. we'll see .. to be honest in this moment "I don't trust ANY of them" .. we'll see anyway what the future will bring, hopefully something better, maybe .. who knows ..