Trump

[Dvorak]

Converse of Poe's law: when sincere expressions of extremism are taken for parody.

It's over.
Trump is over.
Admins? Can we have locked this thread?
We need to go on with our lives.

[gilesgoat]

Are you sure it's really over ?

There's still all the impeachment to go and the trial ...

[Dvorak]

That shithead is thrown to the hell he deserves.
We can watch him fall, and, agreed, there lies quite some satisfaction in that.
And rightly so: He's gone. He will be impeached. His history entry will be devastating. He will be ruined financially.
But that's nothing that should bother us anymore.

[70s voice]It's fucking over man, dig it[/70s voice].

[SuperMappy]

There's still all the impeachment to go and the trial ...

He'll flee

[tufty]

I think what's going to be more interesting is how many of his cronies, ostensibly not pardoned, actually have a nice little pocket pardon tucked away. I'm guessing everyone you were surprised he didn't pardon, including himself, plus a raft of others.

Why pocket pardons? Because it would have looked bad in his impeachment trial.

[PFVA]

This thread can always be closed, and then if the trial ever happens, which I doubt, we can have volume 2 of the Trump' s Saga: 'The Trial', and if he or his son decide to run for Presidency in 4 or 8 years we can have volume 3: 'The Return of the Trumps'.

[merman]

Saw a batshit theory from the dregs of QAnon on Facebook earlier. It’s too dumb to repeat.

[tufty]

[SuperMappy]

This thread can always be closed, and then if the trial ever happens, which I doubt, we can have volume 2 of the Trump' s Saga: 'The Trial', and if he or his son decide to run for Presidency in 4 or 8 years we can have volume 3: 'The Return of the Trumps'.

Someone on Twitter suggested that Trump run as an independent candidate in 2024. Which sounds like a decent idea , but just for him though.

[merman]

OK then. Since you asked nicely.

Biden and leading Democrats were put on trial in front of a military court the Sunday before inauguration, and found guilty of stealing the election.

Rather than risk civil war, the military decided to install Biden in the White House anyway as a puppet - with Trump still pulling the strings until his re-election in 2024.

Ergo, anything good that comes out of the White House until 2024 is still thanks to Trump and God’s will.

Told you it was batshit crazy.

[Harlequin]

OK then. Since you asked nicely.

Biden and leading Democrats were put on trial in front of a military court the Sunday before inauguration, and found guilty of stealing the election.

Rather than risk civil war, the military decided to install Biden in the White House anyway as a puppet - with Trump still pulling the strings until his re-election in 2024.

Ergo, anything good that comes out of the White House until 2024 is still thanks to Trump and God’s will.

I could have found that slightly more believable with a few textual replacements, such as 'Trump' for 'Biden' and 'Obama' for 'Trump'.

[p-saurus]

I think what's going to be more interesting is how many of his cronies, ostensibly not pardoned, actually have a nice little pocket pardon tucked away. I'm guessing everyone you were surprised he didn't pardon, including himself, plus a raft of others.

Why pocket pardons? Because it would have looked bad in his impeachment trial.

Pardons have to go through certain channels and are public. The second he left office, he lost the power to pardon anybody.

[tufty]

… pocket pardons …

Pardons have to go through certain channels and are public.

AIUI, neither of those statements are true. I'd be happy to be shown to be wrong, though. I'm not a constitutional lawyer, and my knowledge, such as it is, comes from a broad reading of the relevant bits of the constitution, along with the more level-headed commenters. There's a lot of "ehrmegerd the sky is falling" crap out there.

[edit] Pardons are expected to go through the Office of Pardon Attorney, but that's DOJ regulations, which AFAICT have no overarching power over the President's constitutional right to pardon. That's not been tested in a court of law, but it seems logical that if Congress can't interfere in a president's power to pardon even in his own self-interest, that he shouldn't be stopped by mere failure to dot the "i"s and cross the "t"s. There's apparently nothing stopping the President issuing a secret pardon, but obviously its existence would become public at the point it was used.

[F-ZeroOne]

Of course, in America, there are other ways to seek justice (without violence)...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... t-election

[tufty]

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