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[TFO]

Fingers crossed for that
Then maybe you can spill the beans just a little bit

[gilesgoat]

Fingers crossed for that
Then maybe you can spill the beans just a little bit

NO I CAN'T .. that thing is TOTALLY OUT of our control .. we been told "don't say a word" .. and that's it ...

[Misfit]

Fingers crossed for that
Then maybe you can spill the beans just a little bit

NO I CAN'T .. that thing is TOTALLY OUT of our control .. we been told "don't say a word" .. and that's it ...

You talk about multiple projects, can you at least say where you are/how close you are with each?

[gilesgoat]

Fingers crossed for that
Then maybe you can spill the beans just a little bit

NO I CAN'T .. that thing is TOTALLY OUT of our control .. we been told "don't say a word" .. and that's it ...

You talk about multiple projects, can you at least say where you are/how close you are with each?

One is fundamentally completed, it's under "certification" now, as soon as it passes it it technically becomes "ready to go on the shop".

The other one is near completition but "it'a s bit of a thing of its own" let's say so, still "some people can't wait for it".

Then there's a third thing I also practically completed but "we need to sort out let's say some legal/business issues" before we can take that out as well.

Then there's a fourth thing, the stuff stuff Yak is working on it that reached a stage where "if you like it we can move on with this, if you don't we'll make something different" and we are waiting feedback for this.

So yes "there are things" .. that's all I can say for now.

[edit] - "ready to go on the shop" BUT I DO NOT KNOW "what marketing plans" they have and/or when they want to make it appear/announce it .. but I am sure you'll HEAR about it !!

[gilesgoat]

KNOPF!!!

.. the thing is been alrady signalled "one bug" because I used "TASTE" instead of "KNOPF" ..

.. if you wonder "why games takes so long to come out" ... BECAUSE OF SHIT LIKE THIS !!! ...

( also "if you wonder why almost all games have 'day 1 patches' .. because that or you have to fail/correct/resubmit again/spend more weeks into certification WITH THE RISK THEY'LL FIND SOMETHING ELSE ! ) ..

Anyway accodrding internet "

Taste is the button of a piano or Computer Keyboard. Knopf ist mostly used if the thing has only one button like the button for calling the elevator or a button of your suit.
And Schaltfläche is the button that you can click online like the , log in' button in facebook ..

According to Italian language we have "Tasto" e "Pulsante" .. now "Tasto" would be approrpiate for a "computer keyboard" only because it's a remnant of "ancient typewriter stuff" where effectively there was "a lever mechanism" doing the press.

In nowadays time then "all should be Pulsante" ( that I think it's "pushbutton" ) , "Tasto" means "there HAS to be a lever mechanism performing the action".

However "in everyday human language" "Tasto/Pulsante" are interchangeable actually "Bottone"/"Button" can be more confusing ...

Anyway .. it's pointless discussion .. IT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT ! .. but you see THIS ARE THE THINGS PREVENTING GAMES TO COME OUT EARLIER !!

90% of the issues if not 95% that prevent a game to come out earlier are ALL UI / legal issues !!!!

This kind of shit "breaks my soul" .. "and you think you checked all you had to check" .. besides I don't know a thing about german ! .. I would not even tought about it ...

Also "while you are mad fixing other things" if you think it's fun going trough "lightly confusing" spreadsheet in N languages going up and down text checking word by word ... trust me YOU would miss some words too .. the more stressed the more words you'll miss ...

[Foozwah]

KNOPF!

Just had to shout it. It looked like it would be fun. And it was.

[gilesgoat]

*SOB*

.. user does something .. "get error" .. "display error" ..

NO ! WRONG !

You are incorrectly displaying a *** return value from *** in the error viewer applet.

When you get a network communication error from **, you need to verify that the network interface is still available by calling ***

If this function returns false, you need to submit a new network use request and handle any errors that occur during the process by calling ***
Once you verify that *** returns true, then you can try the *** again

.. don't ask me "in what document(s) this is written" because I have no clue ... "there are TOO MANY DOCUMENTS" .. and no as far as I know there isn't "a clear list" that says "this is what we want" or better to say "it's in pieces there and there" ..

SOMEWHERE - I don't know where yet - PROBABLY this thing is written but trust me "when you are doing all this thing alone and you don't really know well how all works" is .. "to get nuts for" ..

Also , of course, and that's probably "the real reason in this case" where they normally say "sample codes are NOT production codes" .. I haven't seen any ( there are NOT many ) "sample code" doing all that ( because they are much more simplified ) so yeah "reality is 10 times more complex than 'samples' " ...

I FUCKING *HATE* "online" stuff for ALL this sort of grief that *EVERY* damned platform has/comes out with .. I NEVER EVER yet seen ANYTHING "simplified" around this sort of stuff NOR "handled transparently" from "the system" .. you ALWAYS have to deal with "a boatload of crap" ..

Yeah "getting it work" in one thing, you can send/get that "relatively easy" .. it's all this "other sort of UI crap" that is "mega mess" ...

And then in the end of the day EACH ONE of these things I've seen ends up in being "glorified HTTP post/get" and almost "NOTHING ELSE" I mean yes "all that fancy stuff in between" ( usually "over complex/over engineered" ) ends up in some string going back and forth ..

Usually with some "mental library(es)" on top of all that.

Anyway back to work ...

Ah yes .. GOES WITHOUT SAYING .. "you maybe try to ask around" you'll get this answer ( usually ) :

"I don't know how it works , I NEVER done it, I NEVER seen it, Unity/UE does it automatically and/or with that plugin ..."

Not to mention the "how do you configure all that to make it work" goes "into the other answer" that goes like

"I don't know, I never done it, someone else done it for me, it was that guy that no longer works for us ( I suppose he got MAD in doing all that), I have no idea, I never seen it, we had someone else ( unreacheable ) that done it, it's voodo" ...

Really .. that's the kind of stuff "I normally hear/deal with" ...

[edit] - I am talking about things like "ok you want some online score tables" ...

But .. first of all "you need a server that does it" and/or access to it ..

But then you need a "debug/production network ID code" .. which means you need "a server request" .. which means some forms to get it .. but then "what the heck you want from this server that provides 100 things ?" .. "ah you want score tables" .. so you need access to the "Ranking" service, but then "what version of the network library you plan to use ?" .. "but then maybe you need other 3 services you really don't want but are part of that 'service bundle' " .. but then you need some test users .. but then you need "a test envirronement" ( NOT always available ) and some test users" .. but then you need to configure net access to those users .. but then you need to "activate" some shit that is NOT the real shit but the shit you test with .. but then you need to configure your score tables .. and so on .. and so on ..

In the middle of all this "usually" some of these "requests" like "please activate this thing" MAY require "5 working days" to succeed and quite often "a number of those things are sequential" meaning "you cannot request Y until you got X" so means 5 + 5 working days ..

Etc. etc. etc. ..

All this assuming nothing goes wrong in the middle and you have to re-do some steps again ..

[Foozwah]

See, now I feel awful for making a silly joke. Bloody hell, Giles, that sounds totally nightmarish. Hang in there, fella..

[gilesgoat]

See, now I feel awful for making a silly joke. Bloody hell, Giles, that sounds totally nightmarish. Hang in there, fella..

Ah worries not .. it's quite a few days I am occasionally ( when I am frustrated ) shouting "KNOPF ! KNOPF ! KNOPF !" all around

[gilesgoat]

.. it would appear we went throught ... at the condition we'll release a "day 1 patch" to sort out two ( UI ) "bugs" ...

I am getting nuts to sort one of the two ...

[Jamesac]

.. it would appear we went throught ... at the condition we'll release a "day 1 patch" to sort out two ( UI ) "bugs" ...

I am getting nuts to sort one of the two ...

Woo! That has to mean an official announcement soon! Soon-ish. Relatively soon. Maybe someday, eventually...

[gilesgoat]

.. it would appear we went throught ... at the condition we'll release a "day 1 patch" to sort out two ( UI ) "bugs" ...

I am getting nuts to sort one of the two ...

Woo! That has to mean an official announcement soon! Soon-ish. Relatively soon. Maybe someday, eventually...

For me at the moment I'd say "probably too soon for me" .. IF i'll survive all this "ordeal" I'll probably still have to spend "a whole portion of the income" into medicines for my nerves ( kidding ) .. at least get myself some new plushie or such ...

NEVER SEEN ANYTHING SO MENTAL as this "network/ui shit" I am dealing with now .. it's like "cryptic crosswords puzzle" I am REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY asking myself "are we NO LONGER able to make SIMPLER SOFTWARE ???!!!" and apparently the answer is "NO WE ARE NOT, WE ARE DOOMED !".

".. call this function but not the other even if the name of it is maybe 'callmebeforeA' but not you have to call C first, then B, then A, then callmebeforeA but no more than 1 time in 20 and beware if you get that error code I don't want you to show that error code but instead do something else unless is friday and mum is cooking pasta after 3pm but not if exactly 3.01 then instead call that applet that shows me a proposed solution unless the user press 'cancel' withing 10 seconds otherwise do something else .. " all this "extracted" from 20 different documents in bits an pieces each one talking about 100 different functions at the same time ...

Remember that guy hitting his head with a shoe shouting loudly IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ?? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ?? .. that's me asking questions at CERT because "I don't know what they want any more" ...

Knopf knopf .. knopf .. knopf ... YA PIN! PAPPINE PER TUTTI ! BLAM !

... I got the point I forgot sugar in the tea .. milk in the tea .. I forgot about all the tea completely .. I make it and I forget to pick it up .. I watch at "error codes" in fear .. I live in the constant doubt of "I am NOT SO SURE ANY MORE OF WHAT I AM DOING!" .. etc. ..

You see that's why you don't want to touch/add/change any feature in certain code "once you have it passed CERT" ..

" .. I'd like this feature .. " NO !

[gilesgoat]

I am finishing to test the "Day 1 patch" .. that you probably won't even note downloading/installing it will take less than 2 seconds I suppose ..

I fear "someone can't wait to make an annoucement" .. but it's not me .. but I think you'll hear something about it .. soon ..

[Markie]

I fear "someone can't wait to make an annoucement" .. but it's not me .. but I think you'll hear something about it .. soon ..

Are we to be mowing lawns sometime soon then?

[gilesgoat]

I fear "someone can't wait to make an annoucement" .. but it's not me .. but I think you'll hear something about it .. soon ..

Are we to be mowing lawns sometime soon then?

That's ANOTHER thing ... "an extra" ...