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I know someone who tested positive on Sunday and they are under instruction to immediately let the doctor know as she's on medicine which compromises the immune system.

They're supposed to prescribe antivirals to help with fighting it all but here we are at end of Wednesday, all the forms have been sent but all anyone can say is "RVI in Newcastle will let you know".
It won't be long before she's past the period where the antivirals are supposed to be beneficial although the covid is showing zero sign of abating :(

Symptoms include sickness & diarrhoea so she's well off her food and struggling to keep energy up.
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Yep you can tell there are new waves around the world - every time I go on Twitter there's another picture of a positive test strip from one of my contacts.

Never bloody ends, seems like it'll be partially limiting humanity for good with long covid etc unless we get much better vaccines.
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Here everybody I know it's fine even though they have the Covid. And in the case of a family I know the ones who escaped last time are the ones having it now. And the ones that had it in Autumn are not having it this time around. At least so far.

It is also sorted out who has the Covid and who has the allergies to the Saharan dust.There was a shower of that 2 nights ago, the third one this year. It wasn't a very big one, I mean things weren't totally covered but there was enough to cause trouble specially because it sticks to cars, sidewalks, trees, walls, etc.

The way we're going I think the best it's to keep the masks at hand. Indoors for Covid, outdoors for desert dust.
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Cloudane wrote:Yep you can tell there are new waves around the world - every time I go on Twitter there's another picture of a positive test strip from one of my contacts.

Never bloody ends, seems like it'll be partially limiting humanity for good with long covid etc unless we get much better vaccines.
Omicron B.4 and B.5 subvariants spreading rapidly. Although vaccines give some protection, they are not guaranteed to work completely.
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merman wrote:
Cloudane wrote:Yep you can tell there are new waves around the world - every time I go on Twitter there's another picture of a positive test strip from one of my contacts.

Never bloody ends, seems like it'll be partially limiting humanity for good with long covid etc unless we get much better vaccines.
Omicron B.4 and B.5 subvariants spreading rapidly. Although vaccines give some protection, they are not guaranteed to work completely.
Let us just remember .. THEY *NEVER* were guaranteed , they can protect you up to a point, they cannot guarantee 100% you'll never get it, caution is always needed.
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They do basically nothing in terms of preventing you catching the variants from around Omicron onwards - just (usually) preventing you ending up in hospital

I don't know why they're not putting out updated vaccines which are supposed to be more effective vs. infection. Still chugging on with the original
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Cloudane wrote:They do basically nothing in terms of preventing you catching the variants from around Omicron onwards - just (usually) preventing you ending up in hospital

I don't know why they're not putting out updated vaccines which are supposed to be more effective vs. infection. Still chugging on with the original
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PFVA wrote:Here everybody I know it's fine even though they have the Covid. And in the case of a family I know the ones who escaped last time are the ones having it now. And the ones that had it in Autumn are not having it this time around. At least so far.

It is also sorted out who has the Covid and who has the allergies to the Saharan dust.There was a shower of that 2 nights ago, the third one this year. It wasn't a very big one, I mean things weren't totally covered but there was enough to cause trouble specially because it sticks to cars, sidewalks, trees, walls, etc.

The way we're going I think the best it's to keep the masks at hand. Indoors for Covid, outdoors for desert dust.
The Saharan dust one is a curious example of prevalent air-currents. We get it here in SW England from time to time, it can be quite heavy - everything coated in fine dust. And very orangy sundowns.
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It even crosses the Atlantic and causes problems in Central America. Here in the coast we are generally saved by the Atlantic winds. I had seen in twice since I came back. This year has been different and we got it 3 times.
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gilesgoat wrote:
merman wrote:
Cloudane wrote:Yep you can tell there are new waves around the world - every time I go on Twitter there's another picture of a positive test strip from one of my contacts.

Never bloody ends, seems like it'll be partially limiting humanity for good with long covid etc unless we get much better vaccines.
Omicron B.4 and B.5 subvariants spreading rapidly. Although vaccines give some protection, they are not guaranteed to work completely.
Let us just remember .. THEY *NEVER* were guaranteed , they can protect you up to a point, they cannot guarantee 100% you'll never get it, caution is always needed.
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Covid vaccines do not prevent you from getting it AT ALL.

Just like Polio vaccines, they limit how severely the disease affects you. Polio never went away, hence it is found in sewage, even when there is no "outbreak."

'Viral load' is a convenient oversimplification to explain the effectiveness of these vaccines. You may catch covid, but such a low 'dose' or 'load' of it, that the noticeable symptoms are negligible to non existent. A non vaccinated person can likewise have a superficially 'asymptomatic' covid.

Now here's the BAD NEWS.

It's becoming clearer that covid has cumulative effects under the skin, with reinfections. Each time covid hits it ratchets up the stickyness of blood, causes further organ tissue damage, esp. lung, brain, liver, kidneys. Damage appear to be long lasting eg 6m+, or permanent if you have severe covid infection.

An anecdotal (not proven, suspected) example is Justin Bieber and partner Hailey. Hailey suffered a transient ischemic attack caused by a patent foramen ovale (PFO). Basically a mini stroke via a blood clot that passed through a heart defect. Folk with a PFO more commonly experience such issues >40yo. She's 25. Meanwhile Bieber has acquired Ramsey Hunts syndrome, a reactivation of the Varicella Zoster virus along the facial nerve Et voila :



Thing is, both Biebers have acknowledged having had multiple reinfections of Covid. 6 or more times I've seen cited (and shortly prior to getting Ramsey Hunt in Justins case). So are they, as some suggest, exhibiting early incidence of blood clotting with PFO and immunocompromisation caused by repeated ratcheting of Covid?



Likewise, think about the sports people collapsing with cardiac issues. Whilst such issues have always been prevalent with sports there's definitely been a spike in cases. The anti-vax contingent claim this is caused by 'vaccine injury'. Another suggestion would be that a) people involved in large scale public sports events almost certainly have endured reinfection many times over, and b) footballers are already at the periphery of cardiac issues given how hard they train and push themselves.

Vax or no vax, we are all likely to be reinfected multiple times over N years. Are the Beiber's examples of the sort of damage one might expect by the time you hit 6.. 7.. reinfections?

They are also fit and in their mid 20s.

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As a mate of the bloke who saved the life of that chap who collapsed at Newcastle and has since done three more crowd CPRs since, I got some informed views on this. What the research in the NHS seems to indicate is that those types of cases are mostly undiagnosed long term issues exacerbated by a lack of exercise and nobody going to visit the doctors during covid; even now, people are clearly avoiding GPs both because of the extreme difficulty of getting appointments and the desire 'not to be a bother to busy doctors who have more important things to do'. At least as far as a couple of months ago, there were limited statistically significant indicators that covid was storing long-term health problems into the country beyond the obvious long covid cases.

The UK appears to be a good testing environment for this since basically everyone's had it and most people have already had it at least twice. It's clearly far below epidemic proportions at this stage. Obviously, those particular cardiac cases are only one type of potential vector, and there's plenty more work to do keeping an eye on this, but it's not obviously a severe problem (at this stage) or we'd all be able to see it all around us.
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Menwhile I read that a bit "everywhere" covid cases are on the raise and the number of infected people is "significant".

Sure you don't hear of people dying in hospitals in intensive care so much any more but it does not mean that Covid is over or less than before, now there are "discussions" in Italy that "they may have removed the obligation to wear masks too soon" .. ..
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For now ours are going down. They say the wave coming from South Africa reached us first, it peaked, and now is going down.


The MPx is still on the rise.
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New Zealand's health system is overburdened, with reinfections creating more cases than they had predicted.
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gilesgoat wrote:Menwhile I read that a bit "everywhere" covid cases are on the raise and the number of infected people is "significant".

Sure you don't hear of people dying in hospitals in intensive care so much any more but it does not mean that Covid is over or less than before, now there are "discussions" in Italy that "they may have removed the obligation to wear masks too soon" .. ..
There are people dying.
There are people seriously ill.

They are estimating over 200,000 cases a day here in the UK.
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