Xbox Series X/S & Playstation 5 (PS5) Thread. Next-Gen 2020

[Deckard]

So were you lot pleased with last nights PS event ?

https://metro.co.uk/2023/05/24/playstat ... -18840989/

As an outsider looking in as I don’t own any Sony or Ms hardware it didn’t look great …..

[Rhythm]

Not for me either. I'm well over dealing with modern consoles. I just want to turn my machine on and play a game, something that's been getting increasingly difficult in consoles.

[Misfit]

Not for me either. I'm well over dealing with modern consoles. I just want to turn my machine on and play a game, something that's been getting increasingly difficult in consoles.

There was an event?

I haven't turned my PS5 on this year! (my son may have a couple of times but online for multiplayer stuff where cross-platform isn't available and most of the big ones ar across platform now).

Oddly Project Q could perhaps spark my PS5 using, a stupid wifi streaming-only handheld device, not because I'll get one, but because it's opened my eyes to the fact I could set the same up on my Steam Deck and remote play the PS5. The PS5 lives in the playroom which I don't venture much into, it's the boy's domain - I have a Series X in the living room, if I can remote use it I may actually spend some time on it.

[WiteWulf]

You can already remote play PS5/PS4 on Steam Deck, but you need to jump through some hoops to get the Windows client working

https://dashgamer.com/how-to-get-playst ... team-deck/

[Misfit]

You can already remote play PS5/PS4 on Steam Deck, but you need to jump through some hoops to get the Windows client working

https://dashgamer.com/how-to-get-playst ... team-deck/

Yes, that's what I mean, looking into the Q made me see I could do it on the Deck.

I found that article last night, seems quite straightforward to get it going on SteamOS, just finding your username in base64 (I'll probably have a harder time finding my username!)

I guess the Q will have the fancy feedback on the controls, so will be worth it for anyone serious about in the home streaming, but it will also probably be a silly price and way too limited (unless there is something in there that can be hacked and people get emulators on it),

[Rhythm]

Interesting to see that Metro article being so negative - most of the reactions I've seen have been fairly upbeat.

[Foozwah]

I've yet to buy a PS5 - prob 90% of my gaming is on Switch again these days, and the other 10% split between PS4 and iOS. Initially I didn't see anything that justified the upgrade from PS4, it all seemed like "PS4 but with slightly better graphics", and zero exclusives that appealed, so it's weird to be several years down the track and still unable to find a reason to buy one.

I guess if the PS4 died I'd consider it, as we use it for all our TV-based TV/movie streaming, but then again maybe I'd just get an Apple TV...

It's weird really - even the "kid nag" factor in our house which was SO strong for PS3 and PS4 has not been a thing at all with the current Sony gen. One is happy on PC and the other is (like me) happy with Switch and iPhone/iPad.

And this Sony handheld, well... I would've def taken a punt on effectively a new/next-gen PSP/Vita, cos as much as I love the Switch I reckon a bit of competition in the handheld space is good, but basically paying for a portable dumb terminal to stream PS5 stuff as long as you're within wifi range...?!?

Yeah, but nah.

[MattyP]

So were you lot pleased with last nights PS event ?

https://metro.co.uk/2023/05/24/playstat ... -18840989/

As an outsider looking in as I don’t own any Sony or Ms hardware it didn’t look great …..

Watched the event out of curiosity really to see if Sony had anything that would grab me. Nothing of note and anything that I was interested in is multiplatform anyway. Alan Wake 2 grabbed my attention as I enjoyed the first one. And the indie games looked great.

Not for me either. I'm well over dealing with modern consoles. I just want to turn my machine on and play a game, something that's been getting increasingly difficult in consoles.

Indeed getting to that point myself - tired of huge patches etc and the cluttered UIs. Like the Switch in this respect. Simple minimalist dash etc and patches seem to be quick and infrequent. Its like a new old school console if that makes sense.

[Rhythm]

Not for me either. I'm well over dealing with modern consoles. I just want to turn my machine on and play a game, something that's been getting increasingly difficult in consoles.

Indeed getting to that point myself - tired of huge patches etc and the cluttered UIs. Like the Switch in this respect. Simple minimalist dash etc and patches seem to be quick and infrequent. Its like a new old school console if that makes sense.

I dipped out of consoles pre-PS4 but a mate pulled me back in. Console life ain't for me though. I have an active aversion to AAA games and their add-on shenanigans, much happier with a PC and a raft of interesting indie titles to dig through. The fact that it's harder to find games on a Switch/Xbox than it is on PC is mental to me, given the primary purpose of consoles.

Sidenote: I recently heard why the Xbox UI is so fucking godawful. Basically down to designing the entirety of the Xbox One around Kinect. MS never envisaged that people would use controllers to move round the UI and, having been told otherwise (changing their SKUs in the process), haven't been confident enough to push a full redesign out there.

[Misfit]

Sidenote: I recently heard why the Xbox UI is so fucking godawful. Basically down to designing the entirety of the Xbox One around Kinect. MS never envisaged that people would use controllers to move round the UI and, having been told otherwise (changing their SKUs in the process), haven't been confident enough to push a full redesign out there.

Are there any good UIs out there at the moment?

I've never liked the Sony stuff either and Netflix, Prime etc are all awful for discovering content or even finding your own watchlist. And auto-playing videos every time you pause on something can just F-off!

[Rhythm]

Are there any good UIs out there at the moment?

I've never liked the Sony stuff either and Netflix, Prime etc are all awful for discovering content or even finding your own watchlist. And auto-playing videos every time you pause on something can just F-off!

FWIW I've liked the UI Sony had since PS3. Single stripe of games in the order you last played them. Simple AF.

Other streaming stuff though, urgh. It's horrible all over the place. Bad remote aside I do quite like Apple TV, although it's annoying that they've *still* not come to a deal with Netflix. The main page on that is great for tracking multi-service watchlists and the fact that, if you search for something, it tracks across all services and offers the version that will cost you the least first is fantastic.

Award for worst modern UI surely goes to Sky Glass. It's bafflingly difficult to get on with.

I did dabble with Tidal a little about a year ago. I found the focus on the musician rather than the music, even including sleeve notes from albums, really refreshing

[Rhythm]

Oh, and a huge fuck you to Prime and Netflix for changing the location of the watchlist every time you start the app. It does add an element of surprise, I guess. Sometimes the first row, sometimes the seventh. Or maybe you'll get extra lucky and it's one of those days where you have to find it in the "my stuff" category on the sidebar

[WiteWulf]

Disney+ is hands down the worst streaming UI/UX, nothing else even comes close in my experience

My biggest niggle being that if you don't watch an episode all the way to the end (ie. you stop when the credits roll) it will sit as the current episode in your recent activity section. But, when you're watching an episode you can't quickly and easily get to the episode list to find the next one, you have to navigate/search to find it. It's soooo infuriating

[MattyP]

Sidenote: I recently heard why the Xbox UI is so fucking godawful. Basically down to designing the entirety of the Xbox One around Kinect. MS never envisaged that people would use controllers to move round the UI and, having been told otherwise (changing their SKUs in the process), haven't been confident enough to push a full redesign out there.

Think it was originally based on Metro - Windows 8 UI which was itself designed around touch screens!

Thankfully its a bit better now... still full of crap however.

Anyway mostly playing on the Switch these days.. seems to be ticking the boxes at the moment. I think the Xbox Series console I have will be the last Sony/MS console I buy. I tend to be playing more indie titles and enjoy Nintys first party titles mostly so probably PC and a Nintendo machine going forward. Kind of going back to how I used to game years ago. (computer gaming mostly with the odd console if something impressive came out on those).

Still enjoy reading and learning about developments in gaming but noticing more as time goes on that less interested in top tier AAA games. As pretty as they are. Mostly use my Series S console for playing older games in my digital library (mostly 360 games... so it's like a supercharged 360 ). Of course it also allows me to dabble with anything that does get released by MS so FOMO doesn't kick in.

TBH most of what Sony showed yesterday night kind of confirmed all this for me.

[Rhythm]

Sidenote: I recently heard why the Xbox UI is so fucking godawful. Basically down to designing the entirety of the Xbox One around Kinect. MS never envisaged that people would use controllers to move round the UI and, having been told otherwise (changing their SKUs in the process), haven't been confident enough to push a full redesign out there.

Think it was originally based on Metro - Windows 8 UI which was itself designed around touch screens!

Metro was one of the updates they did on 360, when they (re)launched Windows Phone. But you're right, the One interface absolutely still has roots in that. It was the detail of "Microsoft felt confident that everyone would use nothing but voice to get around and that's how they designed the interface" that I hadn't heard before

And of course they caught so much flak for re-engineering the system interface during the life of the 360 that they now daren't make any big changes again.