F-ZeroOne wrote:So guess who has just spaffed off as an MP?
By effectively revealing the outcome of the Standards Committee report, before it was due to be finalised on Monday, the dishonourable member just opened himself up to further contempt of Parliament charges.
And the Appointments Committee VETOED half of his nominations for the House of Lords - eight names out of 15, believed to include Stanley Johnson the wife-beater and Nadine “empty headed” Dorries.
Heseltine summed it up - Johnson resigning has “no connection to anything resembling integrity or the truth”.
Three by-elections is exactly what Sunak didn’t want.
Although it has to be said, the first thing that came to mind was this.
"massive retard™", "full of shit™", "tiny bitch™", "retarted™", "a bit of a one trick pony™", "petty™", "simple minded idealistic twat™", "miserable humourless fucker™"
ALLOW me to say a thing as Italian, and even before that *I AM NOT OR EVER BEEN A SUPPORTER OF BERLUSCONI AND/OR FORZA ITALIA* ..
BUT .. I am seeing a bit there and there "in various press" that "Oh Berlusconi is dead OH ALL THE CRAP HE HAS DONE FOR ITALY/ETC .. YEARS NOW TO FIX IT ! " ..
.. wait a minute .. this is really flogging a dead horse .. despite it's true he has done "a lot of crap" and questionable stuff I WOULD TELL YOU BY NO MEANS HE'S BEEN THE ABSOLUTE WORST, THERE IS IN ITALY *MUCH MORE WORSE THAN BERLUSCONI* he'd done quite some crap but he ALSO has done "a number of things that actually did work" .. which is MORE than what OTHERS have done ..
Now it seems to me that "some press" is trying to paint it like "oh the worst evil is gone now we can breathe/start fixing things" .. that's bullshit, we do have at the present "people N times worse than him" STILL ALIVE, STILL DOING CRAP, and I really don't want to make names here because I really fear "someone could see them and use it againist me".
But yes Berlusconi been what he was and done what he's done but don't let be fooled like "we finally got rid of, now it's a new era for Italy" .. it isn't .. well it's already "a crap one" .. just look who we have now ..
I think Berlusconi, with his control of 90% of the media, certainly sold that narrative. The two obituaries I read didn't point to that many specific achievements that weren't primarily self-aggrandizing, though.
Dio wrote:I think Berlusconi, with his control of 90% of the media, certainly sold that narrative. The two obituaries I read didn't point to that many specific achievements that weren't primarily self-aggrandizing, though.
He always done stuff that in some way or another increased its own personal gain, be this monetary or of image, but he did some stuff that made some benefits for "the common people" as well ( even if of course that benefit was still some gain return for him ).
The problem is that after him as you saw we had "the xenophobic party", "the nutters party", "the shit-all-else party" .. it's NOT getting ANY better so far ..
gilesgoat wrote:He always done stuff that in some way or another increased its own personal gain, be this monetary or of image, but he did some stuff that made some benefits for "the common people" as well ( even if of course that benefit was still some gain return for him ). The problem is that after him as you saw we had "the xenophobic party", "the nutters party", "the shit-all-else party" .. it's NOT getting ANY better so far ..
There are valid comparisons to Trump, but a bit less than you might think; Berlusconi leveraged old-style methods to take political power (control of media outlets, 'contacts', etc.) and only used his charisma and fame as adjuncts to those later on, while Trump came almost entirely from the celebrity angle.
merman wrote:
Three by-elections is exactly what Sunak didn’t want.
Rumours circulating that the Boris/ERG crowd are planning more, dripping them out gradually to cause maximal embarrassment
Funnily enough, Nadine Donut hasn’t resigned properly yet - so while the writs for Johnson & Adams’ constituencies are due in Parliament today for July by-elections, Nadine the Clueless could be delaying hers to cause maximum embarrassment during the summer recess.
If more are dumb enough to resign in hopes of giving Boris a safe seat and damage Sunak, the Tories deserve all they get.
Did he.. I mean everybody is still in favour of brexit still believes labour were antisemtic and they're just loving having their liberties taken away and the boats sunk.. or rather is it, obvious the the people are vulnerable to groupthink steered by those in power - inc PLP and Starmer who fucked us over and Libdems too in 2019'
