Politics Thread!

[KlaxonCow]

So the big game what are your odds on Alcaraz Vs Djokovic

Why is Djokovic playing against a San Francisco prison?

Oh, wait. No "T". And I was about to put a grand on the prison building winning as well.

[Orava]

So in Sweden Quran-burning, is that a genuine freedom of expression or just a bad idea?

more here

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/2 ... an-burning

[PFVA]

I don't think people should have ceremonies of burning books. Nor the Quran, nor the Bible.

[Orava]

Yes. Nazis were quite keen of burning books..

[Deckard]

So the big game what are your odds on Alcaraz Vs Djokovic

Why is Djokovic playing against a San Francisco prison?

Oh, wait. No "T". And I was about to put a grand on the prison building winning as well.

Yeah hes not well -

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/b ... k-djokovic

[Orava]

Yes he is an effing buffoon of strange belivies..

[Orava]

Believes

[Harlequin]

('Beliefs')

[Orava]

Yay got there in the end, not one of my favourite words to spell.

[F-ZeroOne]

As Nigel Farage is big on demanding apologies just at the moment, can we demand one from him?

[merman]

As Nigel Farage is big on demanding apologies just at the moment, can we demand one from him?

1. He didn’t have enough money in the account on multiple occasions and admits it
2. His mortgage with Coutt’s had been paid off
3. He was offered a separate account with NatWest and turned it down
4. How did he obtain this so-called dossier without breaching confidentiality or some other activity?


While there is a point to be made about access to banking - Martin Lewis pointed out on Twitter close to 1 million do not have a current account - and there is some evidence that politics played a part in the decision, this headlong rush to call himself “cancelled by woke Remainers” is pure projection and DRAMA from Farage.

[Ratsoap]

The bank did admit that they stopped his account because of his beliefs though, and that's not a good precedent to set.

He's an utter cunt, but if it happened to him, it can happen to you or me.

[venusian]

It can. Not least because banks are private companies and can choose who to offer accounts to.

It's hugely hypocritical of Farage, and the Conservative Muppets loudly egging him on, to complain about the behaviour of such private companies and demand legislation to control them whilst continuing to pursue deregulation and privatisation of public services. Either there are essential services, like water and mass transport and access to financial services, which deserve special treatment and ownership structures, or the private sector is truly free. Farage and co are once again arguing for their personal cases as if they were the general case.

[Rhythm]

What Venusian said. This isn't about his "beliefs" (and phrasing it that way is problematic, as it suggests political following is in the same category as religion, which it's not) it's about his behaviour. He's a provocateur and no bank would want that attached to their profile, especially if you're in a "special" high wealth package - it makes the bank a target.

Plus it's all been framed as "ooh, he's been left without a bank account". He hasn't - all he's had is a polite suggestion that he leave the VIP area and go back to the normal bar with the rest of the plebs. He's shat himself in public, been given a chance to clean himself up and instead is smearing it round the walls.

[Ratsoap]

What Venusian said. This isn't about his "beliefs" (and phrasing it that way is problematic, as it suggests political following is in the same category as religion, which it's not) it's about his behaviour. He's a provocateur and no bank would want that attached to their profile, especially if you're in a "special" high wealth package - it makes the bank a target.

Plus it's all been framed as "ooh, he's been left without a bank account". He hasn't - all he's had is a polite suggestion that he leave the VIP area and go back to the normal bar with the rest of the plebs. He's shat himself in public, been given a chance to clean himself up and instead is smearing it round the walls.

Don't get me wrong, I hate the guy, and have no sympathy for him. It's just that a world in which fucking *banks* are the arbiters of what constitutes acceptable behaviour is really not one I want to live in. Not having access to a bank account makes life almost unliveable.

Couple this with the petty vindictiveness that seems to permeate society, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to see this as tool to silence dissenting voices.

I don't know, maybe I'm just paranoid, but there's a definite whiff of 'if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear' about this whole thing.