Trump

[phattslagg]

Interesting breakdown of the charges against Trump and how they differ significantly from the counter-accusations the cons are trying to make against Clinton, Biden and Pence.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJXCRmLD/

[tufty]

Today's indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States

Have a guess who just said that.

Spoiler: show

Mike Pence

[F-ZeroOne]

The BBC makes the interesting - I'd use the word extraordinary - point that one issue prosecutors face is that Trump can't be on trial four times at once...

[tufty]

The BBC makes the interesting - I'd use the word extraordinary - point that one issue prosecutors face is that Trump can't be on trial four times at once...

Why not?

[F-ZeroOne]

It might be the law, legal logistics probably plays a part as well.

[tufty]

Thing is, I've been unable to find any reference to this on the BBC, or even the internet as a whole, and I can't find anything that would indicate he couldn't be indicted and tried as many times as the courts see as necessary.

Do you have a cite for it?

That's not a wikipedia "cite required" bit of passive-agressive bullshit, by the way. You only have to look at my .sig to know I'm not that kind of guy :) I'm just wondering if you haven't misheard / misunderstood a bit of ambiguous wording along the lines of "Trump may now find himself on trial in up to 4 consecutive simultaneous cases" (document retention / Jan 6 / E. Jean Carroll 2 / Stormy Daniels) and it seems there's a couple of others already (Georgia election tampering and New York Falsifying business records)

Which now has me wondering who has the record for the most consecutive simultaneous cases...

[Dio]

Consecutively, yes, simultaneously, no?

[tufty]

Oh bloody hell. Yes, I meant "simultaneous" and will go back to edit it.

[F-ZeroOne]

It was on the BBCs "Live" coverage earlier this morning, I did go back to try and find it put can't find the exact quote now. Just to be clear, I mean that if he is at a trial for one of the indictments, if what I saw is right he can't be on trial for another at the same time the first trial is happening (i.e. leaves the courthouse and then immediately has to go to another courthouse) - if I understood what I read correctly, one trial would have to be complete in its entirety before the next trial could take place.

[tufty]

Yeah, but that gets resolved in scheduling hearings.

[F-ZeroOne]

Well, as I say I may have misunderstood it or it may the way the US legal system works. I think we can agree its a bit remarkable for a former US President to not only be facing four indictments but also that he may also be President from jail next time round... (and yes, that is apparently a thing that could happen).

[Dvorak]

I say, an indicted piece of shit still is a piece of shit.

[merman]

Indictment III: Try Harder

Former Attorney General Bill Barr just stabbed the Trump in his orange back by saying “free speech is not a defence in this case”

[snaff]

The BBC makes the interesting - I'd use the word extraordinary - point that one issue prosecutors face is that Trump can't be on trial four times at once...

It's not much given that Biden has 60 lawyers working full time to find anything to prosecute Trump for.

[ThetaReactor]

The BBC makes the interesting - I'd use the word extraordinary - point that one issue prosecutors face is that Trump can't be on trial four times at once...

It's not much given that Biden has 60 lawyers working full time to find anything to prosecute Trump for.

That seems wasteful, given how Trump has admitted to most of the crimes on social media already.