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PFVA wrote:Do they mean they are not ready to handle the increase in temps their products are creating?
Very ironic, eh?

Although, that's something I never considered before. Whether there's actually a nasty "feedback loop" within the fossil fuel economy itself.

If there is such thing as "too hot to produce oil" then - oh dear - we're in even more immediate trouble than we originally thought.

(Although, it could also prove good. If fossil fuels continue to remain unaffordable, and it even starts getting worse, then even the sceptics will have to consider that maybe we do need some alternatives to this shit. Putin's war got the world talking about bringing fossil fuels to an end. I mean, in practice, they're not really doing it. But if shit keeps on getting worse, then they're eventually going to have to consider that maybe they really, really do have to abandon it, if the price just won't return to some kind of "normal".)
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Utter incompetence yet again from the Home Office.

Forcing migrants onto the Bibby Stockholm barge - BEFORE the results of tests on the water system were known.

So eager were they to get a good headline in “stop the boats week”, they put peoples lives at risk from Legionella bacteria.*

So 15 people moved on, 25 refused to go on, Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick threatened them with removing Government Help, five more agreed to go on, all of them had to be moved off because of the positive bacteria test.

Turns out there was no proper contract process either - someone close to Boris Johnson rang the Australian company that owned the barges and said, “Can you do something?”.
And that involved not properly cleaning water tanks that had been left partially filled for over a year, the perfect breeding ground for bacteria.


*Another refugee who was due to be forced onto the prison ship has tuberculous. That’s highly infectious, along with the measles and diarrhoea that have been recorded at two other immigration detention sites.

And all the rubbish about housing the people from the small boats on these barges has been proved to be nonsense - they are just shuffling people around, while still spending money on “holding” 5000 empty hotel rooms at more than double the regular price! Incompetent through and through.
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merman wrote: And all the rubbish about housing the people from the small boats on these barges has been proved to be nonsense - they are just shuffling people around, while still spending money on “holding” 5000 empty hotel rooms at more than double the regular price! Incompetent through and through.
All because they're more obsessed with shouting "stop the boats" rather than building a robust and efficient system to assess people. The only reason the boats are "needed" is because we're too fucking slow at processing claims
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Uaaau! We have 32 thousand more millionaires.

Looking around it doesn't look like it's getting better for everybody else. On the opposite.
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PFVA wrote:Uaaau! We have 32 thousand more millionaires.

Looking around it doesn't look like it's getting better for everybody else. On the opposite.
It's inflation, I remember when you could name all the millionaires in your city, if any. Now they're ten a penny.
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merman wrote:Utter incompetence yet again from the Home Office.

Forcing migrants onto the Bibby Stockholm barge - BEFORE the results of tests on the water system were known.

So eager were they to get a good headline in “stop the boats week”, they put peoples lives at risk from Legionella bacteria.*

So 15 people moved on, 25 refused to go on, Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick threatened them with removing Government Help, five more agreed to go on, all of them had to be moved off because of the positive bacteria test.

Turns out there was no proper contract process either - someone close to Boris Johnson rang the Australian company that owned the barges and said, “Can you do something?”.
And that involved not properly cleaning water tanks that had been left partially filled for over a year, the perfect breeding ground for bacteria.


*Another refugee who was due to be forced onto the prison ship has tuberculous. That’s highly infectious, along with the measles and diarrhoea that have been recorded at two other immigration detention sites.

And all the rubbish about housing the people from the small boats on these barges has been proved to be nonsense - they are just shuffling people around, while still spending money on “holding” 5000 empty hotel rooms at more than double the regular price! Incompetent through and through.
It's all just a distraction from the million legal immigrants per year.
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Ow no!

In the national news:
Chocolate crisis

In 2 years the price of chocolate here went up 19% and it's going to rise a lot more.

The reason is the climate. Countries that produce cocoa like the Ivory Coast are cancelling contracts.

No, not chocolate. I don't eat a lot but I like my weekly chocolate mousse and even so often Hussel chocolate with cashew nuts.
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And now it's the oranges

There is a shortage in the market, and the price is sky rocketing.

Reason: the drought in the Algarve.
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UK parliament back in action. PMQs today has so far seen Sunak accusing Starmer of never before being interested in school collapses (even though Starmer had in fact talked about it in formal speeches), Andrew Bridgen asking "when are we going to do something about the deaths caused by the COVID vaccine?" and Greg Smith complaining that Sunak isn't doing enough to ban solar panels.

All back to normal then
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Isn't the Online Safety Bill being pushed through today too?
The one that has Meta and Apple threatening to pull their messaging services out of the UK?
The one that breaks encryption because MPs are too fucking stupid to understand it?
The one that's essentially using "Won't somebody think of the CHILDREN?!?" to further erode our privacy?
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Mat wrote:Isn't the Online Safety Bill being pushed through today too?
The one that has Meta and Apple threatening to pull their messaging services out of the UK?
The one that breaks encryption because MPs are too fucking stupid to understand it?
The one that's essentially using "Won't somebody think of the CHILDREN?!?" to further erode our privacy?
They changed the bill. They're reserving the right to be able to scan messages through encryption but they've left it open as "when it is technically feasible to do so".
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And here

Domino effect:

VW is suspending production for 9 weeks due to lack of parts that are produced in Slovenia where the plant got badly flooded and had to stop production.

Temp workers let go, the others with reduced wages.

Several other small businesses here affected because they work for VW some of them exclusively.
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Déjà vue fm one year ago.
Teachers out in the street protesting, announcing on and and off strikes a demonstrations, government still insisting they won't negotiate. Exactly the same as last year. It seems we will have another chaotic school year.
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I saw this one on the news yesterday.
They created a new government program to help pay for housing in the cities like Lisbon and Porto where the prices are completely out of control. This guy being interviewed is a nurse. He makes € 1300.00/month. Housing costs over €1000.00. With inflation the 300.00 left aren't exactly enough. He applied for the so-called help. He was approved. They issued payments of €1.58/month. Not an error, exactly one Euro and fifty-eight cents. With that he can buy 6 breads, or 2 espressos.

He says he is now applying for jobs in Europe. We have a serious shortage of nurses because for the past 10 years they have all been going overseas to countries like France, Luxembourg, Spain, UK, etc.
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PFVA wrote:I saw this one on the news yesterday.
They created a new government program to help pay for housing in the cities like Lisbon and Porto where the prices are completely out of control. This guy being interviewed is a nurse. He makes € 1300.00/month. Housing costs over €1000.00. With inflation the 300.00 left aren't exactly enough. He applied for the so-called help. He was approved. They issued payments of €1.58/month. Not an error, exactly one Euro and fifty-eight cents. With that he can buy 6 breads, or 2 espressos.

He says he is now applying for jobs in Europe. We have a serious shortage of nurses because for the past 10 years they have all been going overseas to countries like France, Luxembourg, Spain, UK, etc.
And when his landlord heard I bet his rent went up to €1001.58 per month.
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