Trump

[Whiteball]

I thought it had been recalculated more accurately and the 'window' was found to be much smaller so more unlikely to come around again and hit us later?

[KlaxonCow]

As opposed to Corbyn's remain campain of (said quietly) "leave".

Well, yes. Another aspect of the Remain campaign was that none of them were any good at it.

Just picking on Cameron in particular, because 1. he was nominally "in charge" of the Remain campaign 2. it's his fucking fault any of this happened in the first place 3. the arsehole is back in government again.

Corbyn was completely fucking useless as well, it's true.

And then we all die.

We all die whatever happens. Might as well go out with a bang.

Ah, reminds me of one of my favourite lines from Firefly:



Everybody dies alone.

[(o)(o)]

As opposed to Corbyn's remain campain of (said quietly) "leave"..

If a lie is repeated often enough does it become the truth?

Corbyn supported EU social and ecological policies among other things, whilst quite rightly being vocal about issues around fiscal policies and entrenched undemocratic structural.

He literally said the best way to address those issues is by remaining a member, where you actually have influence.

Surely you can see with hindsight that he was fitted up by the establishment / media / right wing Labour WRT to various issues eg supporting IRA, Hamas, claims he was an antisemite, and being an 'ardent leaver'...

[(o)(o)]

As opposed to Corbyn's remain campain of (said quietly) "leave".

Well, yes. Another aspect of the Remain campaign was that none of them were any good at it.

I rather suspect that has a lot more to do with resources and "political will" being driven by undemocratic forces than aptitude of any particular remain campaigners.

That must hone in on Kier 'Trojan Horse' Starmer... and ultimately Jo 'the cunt witch' Swinson, who laughably 'on paper' campaigned to revoke Article 50 yet ultimately was the single individual who enabled Leave at the 11th hour

[Mat]

I despise the fact that Corbyn has become a political pariah when so many of the accusations thrown his way were outright lies, made up by the right wing of the Labour party so they could sieze power.
This video in particular makes me seethe:

[Dio]

We can all settle that he couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery though, right? I have time for many of his policies, but none for his leadership. He had zero concept of what was actually important. The left in general has always been awful for this. Fuck the small stuff and fix the country first.

[F-ZeroOne]

"You gotta pay.":

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 14616.html

Jared Kushner thinks Gaza would make for some great beach-front property (to be fair, he does mention "building up livelihoods" but the whole thing comes across just a little bit clueless):

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... rael-negev

[Kelloggs]

And... we appear to have a verdict. At this point, I see two outcomes - either the American people consider their legal system unrecoverably broken to have returned such a travesty of an outcome (at which point, they should probably ponder the brokenness of their country as a whole), or...

He's going down.

[SuperMappy]

"Trump Fan Smothers Pro-Biden Rival With Her Exposed Chest in Frenzied New York Crowd Ahead of Bombshell Guilty Verdict."

lol, I can think of worse ways to go

[Ratsoap]

He's definitely going to win now, isn't he?

[Deckard]

Hard to see how any decent republicans can vote for him if they believe america and by extension the legal system is great ! Seems weirder to think that you cant be an american president if you weren't born there no matter how great you are but you can if you are a convicted fraudster !

[zip accident]

And... we appear to have a verdict. At this point, I see two outcomes - either the American people consider their legal system unrecoverably broken to have returned such a travesty of an outcome (at which point, they should probably ponder the brokenness of their country as a whole), or...

He's going down.

Abput 50% the one way, and about 50% the other:

A second civil war ahoy.

[KlaxonCow]

I was enjoying his 40 minute "stream of consciousness" rant at Trump Tower there.

Something about a lawyer, who was qualified at the time that he paid the money ("at the time"? What the hell does that mean?), is a good man and just ignore the stuff about him being involved with "taxi cabs and medallions"...

No, no. Stop there, Trump. What?! Taxi cabs and medallions?

And it wasn't "hush money", it was a "paid non-disclosure agreement". Very legal, apparently. Everyone's got an NDA, right? Nothing wrong with that.

Absolutely hilarious stuff. And I'm pretty sure in all that 40 minutes of ranting complete bollocks, Trump must have just waived his 5th amendment right in the midst of all that, and it'll be used against him in the appeal.

(The 5th amendment's the one where you can't be forced to self-incriminate. BUT... you are perfectly allowed to voluntarily self-incriminate, if you want. The 5th only says you can't be made to do it. But if you're an idiot and you just do it anyway then, well, that's Trump's 5th flying out of the Trump Tower window.)

[SuperMappy]

I am enjoying all the people, and I do not mean you lot here, acting like they won The Super Bowl, The World Cup, and The World Series all at once, when he was just basically convicted of one of the lowest felonies possible: paperwork fraud.

My personal opinion is that if he did it, he deserves to be punished for it.

The real trials begin later for more serious crimes.

As my friend says: He'll get probation and will most likely get reelected thanks to all the inbred Trump lovers who now think he is a martyr.

May we all live in interesting times.

[tufty]

He would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those* pesky lawyers

Spoiler: show

* his