Trump

[Orava]

Yeas two candidates on motor-scooters. How about some younger voters?

[PFVA]

There's some reading from the Beeb early on here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60061473

The cynic in me tends to think it's the fact that she's a woman of colour, but I suspect there's more to it than just that.

Maybe just maybe they think or they say she did nothing about immigration because her mother was an immigrant. Even though as far as I remember her mother was or still is a researcher at UC Berkeley, one of those people countries happily give resident cards to.

[Orava]

I am an immigrant. 'why did you come to UK?' to study for a degree, yes please 10 grand. And to work, to provide something for the community as a fire officer. Immigrants are not all bad?

[PFVA]

NYT is calling for Biden to resign as candidate.
The other NY paper, the Post is the one who published the video of Biden a kind of wandering off at the G8 meeting, and that led to his replacement by Kamala at the Peace conference about Ukraine.

There is several names being discussed to replace him.
Besides Kamala Harris, the only one I recognise is Gavin Newsom, the California governor.

I can't believe they waited this long to discuss the issue.

[SuperMappy]

Looks like Trump is set to win this. Unbelievable. Can the Democrats really not find anyone else than Biden ?!?

Yes, I have been wondering this for a few years. It's some strange tradition that if the party's president is popular then his vice president will almost always be the party's next candidate.

All I can think of, when I hear Biden talk, is "anyone younger?" and all I can think of, when I hear Trump talk, is "anyone saner?"

IMHO, neither one should be president.

[tufty]

Biden was awful at the debate, ut Trump was just as bad. Sure, blatantly and transparently lying, and making jokes at Joe's expense works well with his demographic, but they are going to vote for him anyway - nothing much he did did anything to sway the undecided voters. He just came across as the lying crook we all knew he is, and vicious to boot. Biden came across as old, but that's what people were expecting. Who knows what the effect will be...

Age should have been a disqualifying element for both of them, to be honest. A vote for either of them is 50/50 a vote for their VP when they eventually cark it.

The "Biden wandering off" video was very selectively edited, by the way, Paula - he was actually watching and then chatting with a parachutist off-camera; the full clip actually shows the parachutist. So, y'know, "media bias".

[zip accident]

The "Biden wandering off" video was very selectively edited, by the way, Paula - he was actually watching and then chatting with a parachutist off-camera; the full clip actually shows the parachutist. So, y'know, "media bias".

That may be all it takes even so, the "Kinnock stumbling" video won the Tories that election.

[PFVA]

The "Biden wandering off" video was very selectively edited, by the way, Paula - he was actually watching and then chatting with a parachutist off-camera; the full clip actually shows the parachutist. So, y'know, "media bias".

Ow, I never saw that clarification.
I guess we can't trust even NY media nowadays.

[Harlequin]

I guess we can't trust even NY media nowadays.

The New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.

[PFVA]

I guess we can't trust even NY media nowadays.

The New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.

Yeah, I just found that out when I went to look for the real video. I though Murdoch was not around any more.

[Barney]

I guess we can't trust even NY media nowadays.

The New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.

This is how you know the Tories have seriously fucked up.

Labour is being allowed to run a pretty effective campaign against them this time. Those Tories must have really fucked up.

[SuperMappy]

[tufty]

Oh good lord. The SCOTUS have basically made presidents into kings.

[F-ZeroOne]

I've been trying to avoid invoking Godwins Law but in this case, the echoes of Germany in 1933 are ringing louder in my ears...

[Orava]

yes, Hitler Tump, the way to go.