Politics Thread!

[PFVA]

It seems that someone tried to shoot Trump with an AK47 at one of his golf courses in Florida.

(The news are being ignored by the media here though because the fires up north have turned serious overnight and in one place houses are burning)

[zip accident]

So the people who posted earlier in this thread were right, then?

Apparently so.

Just bringing the news reports that are now confirming these details.

And the linked article has the photographer's own words regarding the circumstance of that photo - including that he deeply regrets posting it on the Internet now, after it's been taken up by right-wingers for their own agenda. When he only took the photo as a "you don't see that every day, do you?" curiosity.

(And, honestly, the reason I was even looking into this was I was wondering if there was any evidence that the photo was perhaps AI generated. In this day and age, seeing is no longer necessarily believing. But with various news agencies interviewing with the photographer, it does seem confirmed that it is a real photo.)

Someone once told me "the camera always lies", and it's true, the camera doesn't see exactly what a human eye would in the same place and time.

[tufty]

it's been taken up by right-wingers for their own agenda.

I think you may have accidentally inserted "right-wingers" in the place of "actual nazis" and "for their own agenda" in place of "to push tropes used by actual nazis since the early 1930s". It's not the funny light hearted absurdity it might appear to be on the surface.

The source of the current "haitians eating pets" thing appears to be a rather charming young man named Drake Barentz, member of "Blood Tribe", a lovely organisation who march carrying, y'know, swastikas. Here they are in 2023.

Actually, here they aren't. A google image search of "blood tribe march" should get you the idea, though.

Mr Barentz also goes by the name "Nathaniel Higgers", because - well, racist cunts gonna racist. Obviously, though, the whole <racist slur> eating pets thing is not new in America, it's been pushed against pretty much every ethnic minority there is over there. Mexicans, various asiatic groups, etc. And it's almost exactly the same rhetoric which was levelled against the Jews in the '30s and even before then.

So now an ex-president, hoping to become the next president, and his VP pick, are pushing this racist lie on TV and any media they can. They're not being picked up on it for anything apart from occasionally having it pointed out that it's not true. And somehow the election result is considered to be a close call.

[Harlequin]

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(And, honestly, the reason I was even looking into this was I was wondering if there was any evidence that the photo was perhaps AI generated. In this day and age, seeing is no longer necessarily believing. But with various news agencies interviewing with the photographer, it does seem confirmed that it is a real photo.)

Someone once told me "the camera always lies", and it's true, the camera doesn't see exactly what a human eye would in the same place and time.

And faked photographs have been used politically since at least Stalin.

Actually, here they aren't. A google image search of "blood tribe march" should get you the idea, though.

As for apparent, poll-boosting, assassination attempts, some might suggest that one is unfortunate but two is getting careless.

[F-ZeroOne]

It seems that someone tried to shoot Trump with an AK47 at one of his golf courses in Florida.

Apparently the gunman is a former Trump voter, may have tried to drum up support for Ukraine, and has a little bit of a history of reacting to stuff in not entirely reasonable ways. Like the last one, its clearly not going to be a simple story.

[Deckard]

So is trump just a little child (I know hes a little man) - I Hate Swift - feels like a little child denied a toy who know says he didnt want it anyway...

[Harlequin]

So is trump just a little child (I know hes a little man) - I Hate Swift - feels like a little child denied a toy who know says he didnt want it anyway...

I think much of his appeal to those to whom he appeals is that he talks like a Gen-Z USAmerican Kevin the Teenager with the insults, selfishness and egoism of a spoilt pre-teen (just read his social media posts or transcripts of his speeches minus the actual politics as if unaware of the age of the source, losers!). I feel, however, that his main weakness is having the emotional intelligence and self-regulation of a toddler. It was the latter that Harris seemed to play upon in the debate.

[KlaxonCow]

I think you may have accidentally inserted "right-wingers" in the place of "actual nazis" and "for their own agenda" in place of "to push tropes used by actual nazis since the early 1930s".

No, I just wasn't aware of the connection to actual neo-Nazis.

[Dio]

I saved my commentary for its use in the US particular racist melting pot, but as pointed out, it's well known to have been deployed by the actual Nazis about the Jews.

[zip accident]

The blood libel predates the nazis by a thousand years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

[Orava]

I bit trivial, The Finnish jews fought in the Finnish SS with Germans - some were even awarded the Iron Cross also - also Jewish prisoners of war were not sent to Germany.

[Harlequin]

I bit trivial, The Finnish jews fought in the Finnish SS with Germans - some were even awarded the Iron Cross also - also Jewish prisoners of war were not sent to Germany.

How many were sent to concentration or extermination camps outside of Germany?

[F-ZeroOne]

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... and-sound/

Damn immigrants, letting cats do what cats do without interference!

[Little stoned kiwi]

Is that article legit? Because if that's Anna in the picture, he/she/they look like they identify as a man and have tattoos implying they have a personality disorder with a chance of schizophrenia.


Sure, it's tasteless, classless, and offensive for me to infer generalisations like that about someone I don't know. But I'm more likely to be on the money than they were about their neighbours.

I am very happy that Miss Sassy is safe. That's the important thing. They should have used a picture of her instead.

[PFVA]

I am very happy that Miss Sassy is safe. That's the important thing. They should have used a picture of her instead.

Miss Sassy is a sensible cat and is hiding in the basement till the elections are over.