PC Leader Board?

[Tempest Nut]

The one thing I don't like about a spinner is there is no "dead zone" where is can just stop and let the claw fire left or right, with the spinner, it's so sensitive that it is hard to hold it still enough to just sit there without moving a tiny bit and it changing from firing out one side and it going to the other and back...

Or just creep very slowly forward and back, it would be like using a PS controller with no springback to center, like an indent...

The spinner bearings are so smooth and free-moving that it is very hard not to move it at all, which takes away that killer defensive move of being stuck with no jump and being able to just sit there and fire in one direction, defending that spot.

[hairy_pete]

There are three or four green tracks with gaps on PS4, the two-million one is right after those.

PS4 world best in Pure mode is held by me at 16.3 million, Survival also me at 4.4 million and level 75, Classic someone else at 28 million - my best here being 18. All played with the standard inbox PS4 controller on a 4K Panasonic 65" LCD in low latency Game mode.

I'd love to see how you handle certain levels that kill me a lot, there are a few that are just a roll of the dice for me and that sucks!

I'd love to see video of someone getting 28 million in classic and see where they are getting over a third more points than everyone else?!

I have never used the Share/Record feature in PS4, but I'll try. Any levels you're particularly interested in?

[Tempest Nut]

There are three or four green tracks with gaps on PS4, the two-million one is right after those.

PS4 world best in Pure mode is held by me at 16.3 million, Survival also me at 4.4 million and level 75, Classic someone else at 28 million - my best here being 18. All played with the standard inbox PS4 controller on a 4K Panasonic 65" LCD in low latency Game mode.

I'd love to see how you handle certain levels that kill me a lot, there are a few that are just a roll of the dice for me and that sucks!

I'd love to see video of someone getting 28 million in classic and see where they are getting over a third more points than everyone else?!

I have never used the Share/Record feature in PS4, but I'll try. Any levels you're particularly interested in?

For sure 28, 30, and 37...

And there are a few that would be interesting to see someone that's good play them, 60, 61, 62, 13, and 27...

BUT those first three really P^%$ me off!

[Tempest Nut]

There are three or four green tracks with gaps on PS4, the two-million one is right after those.

PS4 world best in Pure mode is held by me at 16.3 million, Survival also me at 4.4 million and level 75, Classic someone else at 28 million - my best here being 18. All played with the standard inbox PS4 controller on a 4K Panasonic 65" LCD in low latency Game mode.

I'd love to see how you handle certain levels that kill me a lot, there are a few that are just a roll of the dice for me and that sucks!

I'd love to see video of someone getting 28 million in classic and see where they are getting over a third more points than everyone else?!

I have never used the Share/Record feature in PS4, but I'll try. Any levels you're particularly interested in?

Can you get through level 30 without dying? level 28 isn't as bad as level 30, BUT it can be a real ballbuster!

[hairy_pete]

Sure, all those levels are survivable, and since I have all the achievements I must once have been to 34 without dying at all. My best Survival game went to 39 on one single death.

Let's see whether my PS4 has room for a 1hr recording. It'll be a while before I get to doing that.

Also worth noting - play style depends on mode. In Pure, top priority is leeching powerups at least until you catch Warp. In Survival, that's not important.

[hairy_pete]

28 is Cloud 7, 30 is 720 Degrees, 37 is Destroyer, right? Yes, these are bastards. Manageable bastards, but still - death is not inevitable, but likely.

[Tempest Nut]

I have rarely seen any of the top players at TK4 playing. I thought it would be interesting to see their approach to the handful of the truly hard levels.

After I set the records in all three modes on the PC and held them for years, I stopped playing during that time. As of about a week ago, I've rediscovered my love for the game, and I realized I had forgotten a lot of it. I'm working my way back up to form, and I am thinking of taking a run at survival since that mode hasn't been... well, you know...

After watching game footage on the xbox, psx's, and the PC, I can see that although they should play about the same, there are some differences between them, or it just seems that way. Who knows unless you've played on all three?

[Tempest Nut]

There are three or four green tracks with gaps on PS4, the two-million one is right after those.

PS4 world best in Pure mode is held by me at 16.3 million, Survival also me at 4.4 million and level 75, Classic someone else at 28 million - my best here being 18. All played with the standard inbox PS4 controller on a 4K Panasonic 65" LCD in low latency Game mode.

Now, see 16.3 in pure and 18 in classic is believable, legitimate gaming at the top! BUT, 28 in classic is some BS!

Again that's 10 million points over yours, That's being able to do the few unbeatable bonus rounds AND somehow get 6 more rings and green trail bonus rounds and not fail on any bonus rounds before that! That's some BS, and I would have to see that recorded on video...

The thing is, no one can get a triangle on every level, there's just no way on some of them because the level is too short, or there are not enough enemies in the level to get near to a triangle. To get some of them, you have to only kill them one at a time and when you get the AI bot you can't kill any and you have to jump around not shooting and keep from getting killed while you're doing that, which is terrible for points for that level, But, in exchange you get one or two more bonus rounds over the whole game. I mean Van and I went to some extremes to get as many as possible and somehow someone can get 10 million points above that?!?

In classic, is there anyone between you and 1st place???

[hairy_pete]

I'm all for it - just like in the old days in the arcade, when you'd spend a lot of time watching others play and learn from it. I'll see how PS4 recordings would be shareable here.

I recall watching a true master once - on Missile Command, the original with the huge trackball. That guy was so unbelievably quick and accurate with the trackball, just flat out impossible to copy his style because your own hands just wouldn't.

In Classic, I'm currently 4th or 5th. Didn't play that much, still aiming for better Pure results.

[Tempest Nut]

Lol I was just the opposite. I didn't play pure mode that much and focused on maximizing the classic levels. Even then, I held 1st in pure for a few years but I know I could do much better than where I'm at right now. BUT why try? 27 million is not doable without knowing how that guy is gaming the system...

On the PS5, how far from 1st is 2nd place? I know I sure would like to see where someone is picking up 10 million over everybody else...

[Tempest Nut]

I'm all for it - just like in the old days in the arcade, when you'd spend a lot of time watching others play and learn from it. I'll see how PS4 recordings would be shareable here.

I recall watching a true master once - on Missile Command, the original with the huge trackball. That guy was so unbelievably quick and accurate with the trackball, just flat out impossible to copy his style because your own hands just wouldn't.

In Classic, I'm currently 4th or 5th. Didn't play that much, still aiming for better Pure results.

If you have a youtube account you can put them up there for a few days, What I'd really like to see is doing the same levels, "28, 30, and 37" 4 to 6 times in a row each...

Do you get through those levels fairly constantly, or is it a flip of a coin?

[Tempest Nut]

Also worth noting - play style depends on mode. In Pure, top priority is leeching powerups at least until you catch Warp. In Survival, that's not important.

In Survival, there are no bonus rounds, so they can't be a priority... lol

It's just you and your measly 9 lives...

[Tempest Nut]

PS4 world best in Pure mode is held by me at 16.3 million, Survival also me at 4.4 million and level 75, Classic someone else at 28 million - my best here being 18. All played with the standard inbox PS4 controller on a 4K Panasonic 65" LCD in low latency Game mode.

Let me ask you this: how many hours does the 1st place classic dude have logged in T4K??

[hairy_pete]

Also worth noting - play style depends on mode. In Pure, top priority is leeching powerups at least until you catch Warp. In Survival, that's not important.

In Survival, there are no bonus rounds, so they can't be a priority... lol

It's just you and your measly 9 lives...

Obviously. What I'm saying is, in Survival you need to learn to resist the reflex to go catch the powerups - any powerup - whenever there is even the slightest risk to it.

[Tempest Nut]

Yeah, I know what you are saying. I was kidding around...

I had a great survival practice round last night, I call it "practice" because I start at level 10 to save time and skip any bonus round, I go until I die 9 times... I made it into the 70s. but it was just practice...

Other practice I do is just on levels 13, 28, 30, and 37, starting with 13, and I keep playing the level over until I get through it 4 or 5 times in a row, and then move on to the next one of those four...

Or I just start on level 13, and if I die on any level, I have to do the level over until I beat it 3 times in a row. Only then can I move on...

I wish I knew more about what triggers a "Moo, Moo" power-up? I know you can only get one killing a bull, but it's more than just that...