PC Leader Board?

[Tempest Nut]

If it wasn't for levels 13, 28, 30, and 37, I believe I could, possibly, make it to the end of the game in survival...

I die at least once the most in level 30, and usually more than once...

What's your worst level?

[Deckard]

The early ones - the hardest levels in the game to survive without losing lives are between 20-30. Once I get past those to the bull levels it feels positively peaceful.

[Tempest Nut]

I have the hardest time with those suicidal bouncing balls that shoot streeks of light straight up, yelling "Iyaiyaiyai!!!" as they throw themself at you...

Their movement is so unpredictable... Sometimes they'll shoot around at high speed, shooting upwards, and then just calm way down and just hang out for a bit before trying to kamikaze you...

And that level 30 is a killer, I almost NEVER make it through that level without dying at least once...

[Tempest Nut]

The early ones - the hardest levels in the game to survive without losing lives are between 20-30. Once I get past those to the bull levels it feels positively peaceful.

That, without a doubt, is a bad stretch, what do you think about the little stretch of 58 to 63? It's a little killer group of levels for me... I have a technique that works very well, but not until you get to the jump power-up...

[Tempest Nut]

Question: Who is the admin for the Tempest 4000 leaderboard?

From what I have gathered, the developers of a game are responsible for the administration of their game's leaderboard. In this case, would that be Atari or Llamasoft?

[Tempest Nut]

It's rather challenging and also feels somewhat more rewarding, playstyle needs to be quite different when every life counts. Made it all the way to 75 in my best game.

That's it in a nutshell. Do you play for a great score in each level by taking risks, or do you play it safe to get more levels and sacrifice a great score in each level???

If I can get to level 75 with my more risky playing, I would have the high score in survival by a large margin!

Right now, I'm about 300,000 points away from the high score in survival.

I've been having some really great sections of levels, I just need to put them all together in one game, and I'll take it back...

[hairy_pete]

I play for score where risk is low, and I play for survival where needed.

I use the same approach, but with considerably less cautiousness in general and with focus shifted on leeching warp powerups, in Pure and Classic. It is absolutely vital you stay fully loaded on lives, else you won't be able to maximize on warps.

So where are you now in Survival mode, level wise?

[Tempest Nut]

I play for score where risk is low, and I play for survival where needed.

I use the same approach, but with considerably less cautiousness in general and with focus shifted on leeching warp powerups, in Pure and Classic. It is absolutely vital you stay fully loaded on lives, else you won't be able to maximize on warps.

So where are you now in Survival mode, level wise?

I make it into the mid-50s. By the time I make it into the 40s, I only have one or two lives left. Last night, I still had six lives going through the 30s (bull levels) and I threw away 3 lives on one level and rage quit... Choked that one big time...

I'm really close to busting off a big one...

[hairy_pete]

Relax ... the really good tries are rare, and the extraordinary ones are once in a blue moon. My Survival attempts regularly take me to Destroyer and beyond, good ones go into the mid-50s, and I've been beyond that no more than two or three times. In my world record game, I came out of Destroyer and Fidget with just one life lost, still had seven after Plank, somehow got through the mad phase around Electricity Bill fairly unharmed, but then things went downhill and 75 ended it.

This one time, my brain was in another dimension, where everything. just. worked. The same happened again in the final stages of my leading Pure game - somehow, that night, those bastard turrets were not a threat at all. Never happened before, and never again since.

I'm not even trying to get further in Survival, because actively trying makes me tense, and that doesn't help.

[Tempest Nut]

You, of course, are 100% right. I'd even go as far as to say it seems like in some scarce games, the game even tries to help you at key moments by giving you "moo, moos" or the enemies stop throwing up random shots at you, both of which are a HUGE help! stuff like that...

I'd sure would love to know what triggers the "moo, moos" and what does the game saying "One", or "Two", or "Three", or "Four" mean???

You would think it how many warp triangles you have, or need for warp, but it has nothing to do with the triangles...

I can play 10 games and never get a single "moo, moo" and then you get a whole bunch of them in one game?!?

[Tempest Nut]

These are the "One", "Two", "Three", "Four", that the game says from time to time...

I wish I knew what they meant?

https://on.soundcloud.com/V7F9rYU3WKbRf34U8
https://on.soundcloud.com/o9Nwb7YShbL3Kw2d6
https://on.soundcloud.com/DgyfUHzfGtabUKCa7
https://on.soundcloud.com/UYUzwSajNvv7oWXH6

[Tempest Nut]

Relax ... the really good tries are rare, and the extraordinary ones are once in a blue moon. My Survival attempts regularly take me to Destroyer and beyond, good ones go into the mid-50s, and I've been beyond that no more than two or three times. In my world record game, I came out of Destroyer and Fidget with just one life lost, still had seven after Plank, somehow got through the mad phase around Electricity Bill fairly unharmed, but then things went downhill and 75 ended it.

This one time, my brain was in another dimension, where everything. just. worked. The same happened again in the final stages of my leading Pure game - somehow, that night, those bastard turrets were not a threat at all. Never happened before, and never again since.

I'm not even trying to get further in Survival, because actively trying makes me tense, and that doesn't help.

I DID IT! I took the top spot back in survival PC! made it to level 61 or 62 before it all fell apart, but I got around 3,500,000 points for #1...

So that will do for now, and I can go back and play the group's levels I like the most...

[Tempest Nut]

As for the topic of the PC leaderboard, I've crunched the numbers on a game of pure on the PC version of the game, and this is what I came up with...

Most always, you get about 1,000,000 points for every pair of "green trail" (900,000 points) and "rings" (100,000 points) bonus rounds that you can get, AND complete. So typically you can get around 7,000,000 to 8,000,000 bonus round points in the PC version of the game (there is an end-of-game bug on the PC that won't let you get the bonus end-of-game points)...

There are around 12.000,000 bonus round points technically possible, IF, you could get a warp triangle on every level (which would give you 24 bonus rounds in a game) AND you completed every bonus round (you can't), AND you did every bonus round perfectly (you can't)...

You can't get a warp triangle on the first 4 levels, or on levels like 14 "The Ear", level 15 "Cosmos", and level 16 "Ataurus", because they are too short and there are not enough enemies to kill. or on levels like level 17 "Area 51", level 18 "Astic", level 19 "Riot", and level 33 "cattlemans" because there's not enough enemies to kill (You have to kill enemies to get power ups, and you have to get power ups to get warp triangles) which leaves you with around 16 bonus rounds per game...

If we assume you could get as warp triangle on every level (you can't) and got around the 12.000,000 bonus round points that are technically possible (again, you can't), and let's also assume there is one bonus round where you can get over 2,000,000 points, that would make 14,000,000 bonus round points in one game of 100 levels.

That means you would need to get around 13,000,000 normal points by only killing the enemies and the end of level points, and get EVERY bonus round that is technically possible (again you can't), AND complete EVERY bonus round (we know there are some you can't), ONLY then could you possibly get 27,000,000 points in a game of 100 levels of pure mode! Again, it is not possible to get anywhere close to 14,000,000 bonus round points!

I challenge anyone to play a game of pure AND not take any bonus round points and try to get 13,000,000 points!!!

I've never tried it, but that is what is needed on top of an impossible 14,000,000 bonus round points...

[Tempest Nut]

As for the topic of the PC leaderboard, I've crunched the numbers on a game of pure on the PC version of the game, and this is what I came up with...

Most always, you get about 1,000,000 points for every pair of "green trail" (900,000 points) and "rings" (100,000 points) bonus rounds that you can get, AND complete. So typically you can get around 7,000,000 to 8,000,000 bonus round points in the PC version of the game (there is an end-of-game bug on the PC that won't let you get the bonus end-of-game points)...

There are around 12.000,000 bonus round points technically possible, IF, you could get a warp triangle on every level (which would give you 24 bonus rounds in a game) AND you completed every bonus round (you can't), AND you did every bonus round perfectly (you can't)...

You can't get a warp triangle on the first 4 levels, or on levels like 14 "The Ear", level 15 "Cosmos", and level 16 "Ataurus", because they are too short and there are not enough enemies to kill. or on levels like level 17 "Area 51", level 18 "Astic", level 19 "Riot", and level 33 "cattlemans" because there's not enough enemies to kill (You have to kill enemies to get power ups, and you have to get power ups to get warp triangles) which leaves you with around 16 bonus rounds per game...

If we assume you could get as warp triangle on every level (you can't) and got around the 12.000,000 bonus round points that are technically possible (again, you can't), and let's also assume there is one bonus round where you can get over 2,000,000 points, that would make 14,000,000 bonus round points in one game of 100 levels.

That means you would need to get around 13,000,000 normal points by only killing the enemies and the end of level points, and get EVERY bonus round that is technically possible (again you can't), AND complete EVERY bonus round (we know there are some you can't), ONLY then could you possibly get 27,000,000 points in a game of 100 levels of pure mode! Again, it is not possible to get anywhere close to 14,000,000 bonus round points!

I challenge anyone to play a game of pure AND not take any bonus round points and try to get 13,000,000 points!!!

I've never tried it, but that is what is needed on top of an impossible 14,000,000 bonus round points...

In fact, I'm so sure of my numbers that you can't even get to 8,000,000 points in a single game of pure on the PC without bonus round points that I'll put my money where my mouth is, Just to be safe, I'll send ANYONE $100 DOLLARS CASH who can get 9,000,000 points in a single game of pure WITHOUT ANY BONUS POINTS FROM THE BONUS ROUNDS!!!

What that means is to get to 27,000,000 points in a single game of pure, you would have to get 18,000,000 points from the bonus rounds alone, which would take getting and completing nearly perfect 36 bonus rounds (half would be "green trail", and half would be "rings" bonus rounds) in a single game of pure to get anywhere close to 27,000,000 points! and that's assuming you could get 9,000,000 points in a single game without the bonus round points... You can't, of course...

OF COURSE, this will require video evidence of the gameplay of pure in question, and bingo $100 DOLLARS CASH IS YOURS!!!

[Tempest Nut]

It's a shame the game is still broken and can't be cleared on pc without forfeiting your score, the game softlocks after you clear the game.(

I actually emailed Atari customer service about the end-of-game bug, and this is what they had to say...

First reply from them...

"Greetings from Atari.

We apologize for the inconvenience caused to you and would like to inform you that your issue has been forwarded to the respective team. We will get back to you as soon as an update is received in this regards.

We seek your patience and understanding on the matter.
Vansh
Customer Support Specialist
Atari
Nightdive Studios
http://www.atari.com
http://www.nightdivestudios.com"

And second reply from them...

"Greetings from Atari.

We are actively working on the issue you shared with us. However, it is taking longer than expected to resolve. Rest assured, our team is dedicated to finding a solution. We will get back to you as soon as we have any updates.

Thank you for your patience and understanding during this time.
Vansh
Customer Support Specialist
Atari
Nightdive Studios
http://www.atari.com"