PC Leader Board?

[Tempest Nut]

HOW can someone have over 27,000,000 in Tempest 4000 with, or, without the end of game bug not yet fixed???

VanAlphen and I both worked many hours refining the high score on the PC up to around 17,000,000 points, HOW is it even possible to add another 10 million points above the 17 million???

We worked many hours to get all the bonus rounds as early as possible, we worked on getting close to as many points as possible for each level, How can someone come along and add another 10,000,000 points to the nearly maximized high score you can get in the game???

A score that much higher than ours must be a hack or an (scoring) exploit we have missed. I kept an excel sheet to maximize my score to level 84.

Do you still have that excel sheet?

[Tempest Nut]

HOW can someone have over 27,000,000 in Tempest 4000 with, or, without the end of game bug not yet fixed???

VanAlphen and I both worked many hours refining the high score on the PC up to around 17,000,000 points, HOW is it even possible to add another 10 million points above the 17 million???

We worked many hours to get all the bonus rounds as early as possible, we worked on getting close to as many points as possible for each level, How can someone come along and add another 10,000,000 points to the nearly maximized high score you can get in the game???

A score that much higher than ours must be a hack or an (scoring) exploit we have missed. I kept an excel sheet to maximize my score to level 84.

Do you still have that excel sheet?

Never mind, I found mine...

[hairy_pete]

The "four" to "one" sounds are the warp countdown, they sound when you catch the powerup.

Regarding your list of levels that don't yield a warp powerup: Your leeching skill seems weak. 4 is stable, 14 and 15 marginal but not impossible, 16 and 17 stable, 18 and 19 I can't remember, 33 definitely stable in catching a Warp.

In an average game, 2nd green track happens around 24 for me. Earliest I've ever done was out of 11 and 20.

I do agree though - at least until we figure how many points are in the green track gap warps, 27M sounds impossible even on PS4 where every live is worth 200K on the finish line.

[Tempest Nut]

I've had the game say "One" when I've had two warp triangles, or say 'Two" when I had three warp triangles, so that makes me think the number count is not connected to the warp triangles...

While it is true you can rarely get a triangle on some of the levels, you have to only kill the enemies one at a time, and the AI droid will usually kill the effort by killing too many enemies at a time, or the level just ends before you can get that last triangle. I'd love to see a video of someone getting a triangle on every level for, let's say, the first 30 levels in a single game, that's just the first 30 levels, now try to keep that up for the next 70 levels?! and not die trying. And it's one thing to try and leech like that in classic, where if you can sacrifice some lives as needed to get the warp triangle for that level, when you can restart where you started and try again, but pure is something else! In a game of pure missing some is a given. It would need god like play to even come close to getting them all. that's why I said "typically you can get around 7,000,000 to 8,000,000 bonus round points in the PC version of the game" and that's out of 12.000,000 bonus round points technically possible, IF, you could get a warp triangle on every level. and after playing the game myself for over 930 hours, I don't believe anyone can in a single game of pure...

Also, I think your math is off a bit, you can't get the 2nd green track until after level 16 because it's the rings then the green track, and it takes 4 warp triangles to get a bonus round, which means the 2nd green track is the forth bonus round requiring 16 warp trianges, therefore you could not get the 2nd green track as early as level 11? Also, I would LOVE to see someone get all 16 wrap triangles on the first 16 levels in a single game of pure! I'll go as far as to say I would pay money to see that!!

I do know how many points are in the green track gap warps because I've made it through some of them. They are slightly fewer points than the normal green tracks only because you are not on any track during the gaps, and you only get points while on the tracks, and the green track gap warps are the same length as all the others. Green tracks are more or less around 900,000 points each, and the rings are around 90,000 points, depending on how perfectly you can do them (no one can do them all perfectly)...

"On PS4, where every live is worth 200K on the finish line." YES! Now imagine getting 27,000,000 without even the end-of-level bonus for level 100, plus no bonus points for lives left after the finish line on the PC version! As I've been saying, 27,000,000 is a BS cheated score, I don't know how he did it, BUT he did...

[Tempest Nut]

On the subject of leeching warp triangles, I make this challenge!

I WILL PAY $50 DOLLARS CASH FOR ANYONE WHO HAS A VIDEO OF THEM GETTING 16 WARP TRIAGLES IN THE FIRST 16 LEVELS IN A SINGLE GAME OF PURE!
I WILL PAY $20 DOLLARS CASH FOR ANYONE WHO HAS A VIDEO OF THEM GETTING 15 WARP TRIAGLES IN THE FIRST 16 LEVELS IN A SINGLE GAME OF PURE!
AND, I WILL PAY $10 DOLLARS CASH FOR ANYONE WHO HAS A VIDEO OF THEM GETTING 14 WARP TRIAGLES IN THE FIRST 16 LEVELS IN A SINGLE GAME OF PURE!

Disclaimer - A one-time payment per each of the three achievements per person for a max of $50 dollars for 16 triangles, if you have received prior money for proof of 15 or 14 triangles, I will send the additional $30 to $40 dollars for proof of 16 triangles, totaling $50 dollars per person...

[Tempest Nut]

The "four" to "one" sounds are the warp countdown, they sound when you catch the powerup.

Yeah, about that, I just had a game where none of the numbers made any sense.
It said "Three" when I had 2
It said "Two" when I had 3
It said "One" when I had 4
And, at some point, it said "Four" when I had 1

And I'm sitting there thinking WTF is that?!?

It's something to do with the triangles because it only calls out 1 of those 4 numbers after getting a triangle.

Besides, why would it need to call out how many triangles you have OR need for the next warp when you have a BIG triangle counter in the upper right corner?

All I can say is, there still are some mysteries with this game that we may never know...

[Harlequin]

Yeah, about that, I just had a game where none of the numbers made any sense.
It said "Three" when I had 2
It said "Two" when I had 3
It said "One" when I had 4
And, at some point, it said "Four" when I had 1

I notice that, in each case, the numbers add up to five. Might one expect a "Thunderbirds are go" on gaining 5?

[Tempest Nut]

I will have another go with that new knowledge about the green levels later but Pure is a huge time commitment at several hours - its shame they didnt offer the option to strip out the bonus levels on Pure like Survival does as that would lessen the time to play and take out the green level problem.

There are three things in the "keyboard mapper" I could have mapped to that button, and it would have been "forwards" for sure: the left or right sticks, or the directional pad. It was a few years ago and I remember trying a lot of stuff to get through the gaps, BUT I did get through some of them, if not all of them, from time to time...

Whatever it was, it didn't make the gaps smaller, it made you go faster across the gaps in the beginning, AND you had to have that pressed before or at the second the round started, and you would just bearly make it across the gap...

The green tracks were always easier for me than the rings since I was using a spinner. I struggled for a long time trying to add something to my spinner box that would make it easier to steer through the rings, I finally settled on an industrial short-throw "hat" switch, I used like a mini joystick... not that anybody asked...

[Tempest Nut]

Yeah, about that, I just had a game where none of the numbers made any sense.
It said "Three" when I had 2
It said "Two" when I had 3
It said "One" when I had 4
And, at some point, it said "Four" when I had 1

I notice that, in each case, the numbers add up to five. Might one expect a "Thunderbirds are go" on gaining 5?

You know, I believe you are right! So far, it always seems to total five?

[hairy_pete]

Like I said, it's a countdown to Warp.

Also, I said my typical for 2nd green track is around 24, earliest ever from 20. I never said 16 so no point having a multi-post rant about that.

Yes this is more challenging in Pure, but also Yes I do risk a life for it where needed.

[Tempest Nut]

Like I said, it's a countdown to Warp.

Also, I said my typical for 2nd green track is around 24, earliest ever from 20. I never said 16 so no point having a multi-post rant about that.

Yes this is more challenging in Pure, but also Yes I do risk a life for it where needed.

Warp is after 4 triangles, this is a countdown to 5? maybe warp at some point was 5 warp triangles and was changed to 4?

I was just commenting once on you saying "Earliest I've ever done was out of 11 and 20" and I said (one time) "you can't get the 2nd green track until after level 16 because it's the rings then the green track, and it takes 4 warp triangles to get a bonus round, which means the 2nd green track is the forth bonus round requiring 16 warp trianges, therefore you could not get the 2nd green track as early as level 11?" That's hardly a rant...

The rest is related to leeching, but had nothing to do with you in particular, I just wanted to see if anyone could leech warp triangle in a single game like you had mentioned, that's all. None of that was aimed at you (other than the one thing I said above), I just wanted to see the best playing and I thought a challenge might do it, and I thought some cash prizes would make it worth their effort...

I apologize if you thought that was all directed at you. That wasn't my intention at all

[hairy_pete]

So ... just for the heck of it, I just played a Pure game with radical focus on leeching Warp Triangles, come what may, even death.

Even though there was a lot of death and therefore a handful of near misses in marginal levels, I managed one more green track than in my previous best. Also, I finished the first gappy one.

Other skills were a bit weak today, I still finished the game but with only few lives left. The extra warp points nonetheless gave me a new world record now at 17.2M over previous 16.3.

I had three Warp on the finish line, next would have been rings. Five more are totally doable in a less meh midgame, so one more green track will happen someday.

For the record, green tracks triggered out of 12, 21, 32, 40, 48, 61 and so forth (didn't pay attention there), last one out of 97.

Good night!

[Tempest Nut]

So was that 12 bonus rounds in that game, or 14? (green tracks plus the rings before them)

I think that's what you are saying?

How many triangles did you get out of the first 16 levels?

I was going to try the same thing, but I haven't gotten around to it yet...

My record is around 18.6, but it wasn't uploaded because of the PC end-of-game bug, so I gave up on pure...

[Tempest Nut]

Man, I tried for an hour to get a warp triangle on either of the first two levels, but the AI droid messes it up every time!

Can anyone else get one on those two??

I wish pure was just regular gameplay only with no bonus rounds, I think that would be a better test of Tempest skills...

Leave the bonus rounds for classic...

[Tempest Nut]

For the record, green tracks triggered out of 12, 21, 32, 40, 48, 61 and so forth (didn't pay attention there), last one out of 97.

I reread this, and I believe you are saying you got around 18 bonus rounds in that game, give or take one or two??

Am I reading that right?

So that would be around 8.6M of bonus points and around the same 8.2M reg points, plus the extra points for lives left for 17.2M?
That's a great game!

So that is #1 in PlayStation pure now?