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tufty wrote:"…as soon as we made the deal". There was a deal?
If Donald Trump is seen through the prism of him being a narcissistic sack of shit.. pretty much everything he says makes sense (including this phantom deal that probably existed only in his head) - because he is one!

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There are suggestions that the RAF F-35As will be largely used for training, which does make a bit of sense as they’re cheaper to maintain than the Bs (obviously not for carrier training but for general flight and systems training).

There aren’t a lot of non-US options for people shopping for fighter aircraft - Rafale, Typhoon, Gripen and whatever South Korea comes up with currently. The F-35 does have the advantage of a large and growing installed base though for some odd, unknowable reason a number of nations are beginning to wonder if tying their defence industries is such a good idea anymore. Can’t possibly imagine where that idea came from…
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Argh, that should have course read "tying their defence industries to the US"...
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F-ZeroOne wrote:Argh, that should have of course read "tying their defence industries to the US"...
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"My way is the way of not fighting":- the book of Enter the Dragon.
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I'm not sure if this belongs here, but I have to ask: Our Supreme Court said that states like Texas can now demand that people, who visit porn web sites, have to prove they are old enough to view the material. How the hell do you enforce this electronically?

If I have an adult toy, book, and / or video store and you cannot prove your are 18 or over with valid ID you are not getting in. That's easy.

Electronically you can use some other persons ID, use a VPN, or even lie!

I'm not trying to sound like some Victorian era prude, I used to sneak peeks at my grandfathers Playboy and Hustler magazine a long time ago. Those magazines, in the 70s, were tame compared to modern porn sites though.
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SuperMappy wrote:I'm not sure if this belongs here, but I have to ask: Our Supreme Court said that states like Texas can now demand that people, who visit porn web sites, have to prove they are old enough to view the material. How the hell do you enforce this electronically?

If I have an adult toy, book, and / or video store and you cannot prove your are 18 or over with valid ID you are not getting in. That's easy.

Electronically you can use some other persons ID, use a VPN, or even lie!

I'm not trying to sound like some Victorian era prude, I used to sneak peeks at my grandfathers Playboy and Hustler magazine a long time ago. Those magazines, in the 70s, were tame compared to modern porn sites though.
I'm pretty sure that the governments are going to demand that visitors give the porn sites their credit or debit card details, and the porn sites are going to love it.
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The gold card.
Permanent residence card for 5 million dollars. :lol:
Saudis, and other gulf countries are going to love it.
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So, Trump's bill just passed. Along with the supremes saying courts basically now can do nothing to stop the executive, looks like America is now actually beyond saving without a Nuremberg moment. Trials, not rallies, obviously.
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Yeah, the trouble there is that to get to the Nuremberg Trials stage there had to be some... arrangements made beforehand.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dn04lvgpdo
Elon Musk says he is launching new political party.

"the America Party"
Reform USA?

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Because a party led by Elon would be so much less nazi-like than Trump's republicans...
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If Trump's Republican and Elon's whatever start going at each other throats it might be beneficiary for everybody else.
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PFVA wrote:If Trump's Republican and Elon's whatever start going at each other throats it might be beneficiary for everybody else.
Indeed, a convenient benefit of intolerance is its tendency to eat itself and, thus, split the vote.

They begin hating each other for not being sufficiently hateful - and UKIP, then Brexit Part, now Reform, splits off from the Tories, the "America Party" will split off from the Republicans (and the Republicans themselves already internally split, really, with "the Tea Party / MAGA" but they were able to remain stuck together enough for the vote, but were ideologically two parties inside one and have been for a long time).

In fact, we've perhaps been too dependent on the fascists clobbering themselves by splitting off into 37 different factions of "the Racist party" - UKIP / Brexit Party / Reform, BNP, National Front, etc. - that none of them have previously been any election threat, as they kept splintering off into a million pieces all the time.

Unfortunately, as Trump is demonstrating, that kind of splintering from "the haters hating the other haters that don't hate enough" - the "no true Scotsman" of neo-Nazism - can be held together, in a ramshackle way, by having a "cult leader" for them all to worship, even if only symbolically, while still hating the man.
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Not so sure, Paula. Splitting the right wing vote does nothing to force the other parties to do anything to help the people who voted for Trump and might end up voting for Elon. It gives the democrats a "do nothing" option. The problem is that without actual benevolent representation, the marginalised underclass will become increasingly more marginalised and increasingly more angry. And something will snap, one way or another.
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