Politics Thread!

[RiK]

Because a party led by Elon would be so much less nazi-like than Trump's republicans...

[KlaxonCow]

Because meteorological data is used in understanding how climate change is progressing, the Trump administration has cut off access to this data, which is primarily used to predict hurricanes.



And, for sure, this is not the last "cut our noses off to spite our face" anti-science agenda that the Christian Nationalist "Project 2025" will pursue.

[SuperMappy]

House Democrats Report Escalating Pressure From Affluent Liberal Constituents to Embrace Political Violence

https://yournews.com/2025/07/07/3592669 ... tuents-to/

Well this can't be good, but sadly it doesn't surprise me.

The big news networks would just love a bloodbath, literally.

[PFVA]

Sometimes one sees something good on the Evening News:

No, you cannot stop people's access to the beaches.
Beaches are public. There is no private beaches since the fall of the monarchy in 1910.
People who bought expensive in some cases millionaire's houses, or expensive resorts have been restricting access to public beaches nearby by placing guards, private security, and movable barriers on the accesses.
Apparently a total of 45 Km of beaches south of here have been taken over by these people.
We are very sorry but the beaches are being liberated after a competent authorities visit.
Even if you are a foreign millionaire, we have several of those nowadays, and if you decide to go to the beach you may see people there that are not.

[Harlequin]

The big news networks would just love a bloodbath, literally.

Literally? I find it difficult to imagine a news network bathing in anything but do you mean love in a romantic sense or merely a caring protectiveness?

[zip accident]

I think it's all bollocks: Trump, Starmer, Macron, Putin, Xi, Kim. Our real rulers are the spies. ISIS etc, are babes in arms who are occasionally allowed to make a splash, to keep the public interested. The child molesters are real, and so are the terrorists, but they know who they are and they catch enough to look as if they're doing the job, but really they know who the vast majority of them are. I don't think there is anything to be done about it.

All cookies are bad now, I always thought they were a bit dodgy, it may be that there were one or two that were harmless back in the day, but now you can deny the inessential ones, but the bad ones are all in the group they call essential.

Anti-viruses only work on viruses that don't come from state actors, the spies know everything you do.

Trump has not captured the USA, he's merely the latest figurehead.

If you don't think the above is true, explain JD Vance.

[KlaxonCow]

When we eat the rich, this woman has just earnt herself a pass, I feel.

[PFVA]

Trump is announcing 30% tariffs for European and Mexican imports.

For Brazil he wants 50% and that Bolsonaro is not trialed or condemned which is none of his business in first place.

Why can't we just trade with Mexico and Brazil, and everybody else meanwhile the USA is going thru this weird phase?

[KlaxonCow]

He'll probably pull it at the last moment again, as it's just more bully tactics to scare countries into giving him whatever concessions he demands.

I said it from the start, we just have to cut America out of global trade, until it gets a new policy under a new President.

[tufty]

I'm not sure it's bully tactics. Given that it dropped out of the blue, it might just be an attempt to get people to stop talking about Epstein.

It's very hilarious watching him flail on this one, by the way. It's been pretty clear from the start that he wasn't going to be releasing anything meaningful about Epstein, but a bunch of people in his orbit have somewhat staked their careers on it and a load of his followers are laser-focussed on it, because QAnon and Clinton and so on. I'm fairly sure it's not about Trump himself being in the files, he could be airbrushed out relatively easily - but if you airbrush everyone important out (and you have to, because they all know Trump was involved or have other dirt), you end up with what's been released - "Epstein was trafficking girls for years, for his own personal use, and nobody other that Gislaine Maxwell had the slightest clue what was going on". A lot of people are waving around the Mossad bogeyman as for who put the fix in, but I don't think you have to go that far - both Epstein and Trump were in New York, and there's a lot of people with names like "Big Ron" who have influence, and there's a lot of powerful political influence which is almost certainly implicated... Of course the majority of the Democrats aren't particularly happy about pushing this, because a bunch of their holy cows are in it up to their necks as well - the only ones on that side of the aisle talking about it are the ones who want to burn the old guard to the ground. So we have a bunch of online influencers on both sides of the political divide making a load of noise about what looks very obviously to be an establishment led cover up, and it's hitting the mainstream. And Trump's followers, who are already more than conspiracy-open, seem to be getting a bit agitated.

Given Trump's latest post on the matter, it seems very clear that he is super, super angry. Perhaps more angry than he was about Israel.

It's surprising to me that Epstein could yet be Trump's undoing with his base, and not because he's in the files.

[KlaxonCow]

I'm not sure it's bully tactics. Given that it dropped out of the blue, it might just be an attempt to get people to stop talking about Epstein.

It's probably both.

The last time he threatened this stuff, it swallowed up all the headlines around the planet for a week. So if you need a distraction from his involvement with Epstein and the fact that he ain't releasing those files, this is perfect.

[SuperMappy]

I'm not sure it's bully tactics. Given that it dropped out of the blue, it might just be an attempt to get people to stop talking about Epstein.

It's probably both.

The last time he threatened this stuff, it swallowed up all the headlines around the planet for a week. So if you need a distraction from his involvement with Epstein and the fact that he ain't releasing those files, this is perfect.

I 'm not defending anyone with this statement, but imho the Epstein file are total nonsense. The idea of them are only there to keep people fighting over stupid crap. If Trump or Kamala Harris had any involvement with this Epstein's underage ring this would have come out during the election. None of these people care about you or me. It doesn't matter if they are right or left wing, tory or labour, republican or democrat these low iq idiots only care about themselves and their friends and if it was up to them you could rot in hell. As far as i am concerned, FUCK all of them! Nothing will ever change and you will keep fighting.

[tufty]

Saying "oh, there's nothing in there" is clearly rubbish. If your neighbour has convictions for possession of cannabis, and supplying cannabis, and importing cannabis, and growing cannabis, all those people coming round on a regular basis probably aren't visiting his tomatoes. For example, back in 2022, Melinda Gates explicitly said that Bill Gates' relationship with Epstein was a very significant part of why she divorced him.

[PFVA]

Not to take fm the Epstein files that are an important thing in terms of the criminal behaviour of several well off people but

Thank you Donald Trump and his administration that popularizes Vox and other extremist groups that promote violence by considering them "The true patriots of Europe". Is that the results they wish for?


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8mp7r5jglo

[SuperMappy]

Trump says Coca-Cola agreed to use real cane sugar in US drinks: ‘It’s just better!’. Apparently we are the only country that uses corn syrup.

Well thank God that problem was solved.