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zip accident wrote:This isn't about Trump, perhaps oddly.

Apparently, the Epstein files contain proof that Mandelson was supporting Epstein in using USAian bankers to oppose government policy while Mandelson himself was an advisor to that government.

That should have got him fired if nothing else related to Epstein did.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kzmnr14lo
For a decade and a half, I have wondered about a private conversation I had with the late Alistair Darling, Chancellor of the Exchequer under Gordon Brown, about the financial crisis.

Darling told me about a painful and angry telephone conversation he had with Jamie Dimon, chief executive of US banking giant JP Morgan, at the end of 2009 when the UK government announced plans to tax bankers' bonuses.

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But - to my utter astonishment - details of the background and the context to this call appear to be in the Epstein files released on Friday, and appear to have involved the unlikely combination of Peter Mandelson, Jeffrey Epstein and the suggestion of "mild threats" over the bonus tax.

Mandelson, then business secretary, seemingly suggested that Dimon should threaten Darling mildly over the tax.

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While Darling refused to cave, he did recall that a number of bankers rang him up with what seemed like a script to complain about the bonus tax, urging a U-turn.

It occurred with such regularity that Darling started to tell them what they were about to say before they said it, having heard the words repeatedly.

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The files indicate that Mandelson wrote to Epstein in December 2009, before the Dimon call saying: "Treasury digging in but I am on [the] case."
It is old news now, but if true it reads like treason to me.
They were all at it. People forget that Gordon Brown left the country completely bankrupt.

How did Tony Blair's son end up a billionaire? 'Selling training courses to the public sector'.
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At this point, are we surprised that Racist Grandpa President is Racist?

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It turns out there's a who's eligible for housing crisis:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgykp79ezyo
I can't sell Mum's retirement flat - and it's costing me thousands

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Families have told the BBC they are being left to pay thousands of pounds a year in fees for empty retirement properties inherited from loved ones.

They say retirement homes, which only people over a certain age are allowed to buy, can be hard to sell, even at hugely discounted prices.

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One expert estimated there could be 10,000 long-term, empty properties in privately owned retirement blocks across England and Wales.

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At least 18 other flats in the block of 56 are also empty and on the market, with the same (over 70) lease restriction.

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One property we found had been vacant for more than nine years. In another case, family members face £60,000 in charges accrued since the property became vacant in 2019.

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The Retirement Housing Group (RHG), which represents the industry, disputes the figures and claims that 95% of these kinds of properties are occupied.

It maintains the level of long-term empty properties in the sector is "not disproportionately high".
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Adam Cliff is secretary of the Empty Homes Network, which supports housing officers in local authorities to bring properties back into use.

"A significant amount of homes are ready to be lived in, but are restricted in many cases by the contracts that are holding these people effectively to ransom," Cliff says.
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Second turn of the presidential elections here in the corner of the Peninsula.
Center left won with 2/3 of the votes.
Very noisy anti this and that right that had ended up in second on the first turn had 1/3.
What happened is that most people from the center right and from the right like the (economic) liberals and the christian democrats opted by voting on center left rather than on them.

However the noisy right had 1.7 million votes. That's a lot of people voting for them. The others had close to 3.5 million.
And the other 50% of the population didn't vote.

Note: I'm thinking of sending a 'Thank you' card to Trump and friends who support our 'noisy right', and call them real patriots. That animation of Obama and Michelle 2-3 days before the election is a kind of shocking for most people, specially coming from a President of a Republic.
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Note on the above: Mother Nature helped too. In the morning it was sunny and the heavy rain didn't arrive till after 6pm, :D ballots closed at 7:00am.
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Japans first female Prime Minister has won the snap election she held by a landslide. Shes been compared to a certain British female Prime Minister; I guess one consolation may be that Japanese Prime Ministers tend to last about as long as another British female Prime Minister...
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Is everyone here supporting Rupert?
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snaff wrote:Is everyone here supporting Rupert?
He can't even pronounce "patriots" correctly in British English.
Mind you he's probably hoping for some US coin from somewhere so that's probably why he went with US pronunciation.
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That Asmondshill video gives me the impression he already does.
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Everyone is supporting Rupert! Even the amphibians!

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The paradox of intolerance.

They all can't stand each other. These damned "moderates" are so insufficiently cruel, that they have no "purity" to their hatred. Weaklings, snowflakes. When I rule the world, there'll be no compromises with them fuzzy-wuzzies from Bongo-bongo-land, trust me. Watch my performative hateful rage, ye mighty, and despair.



Who let all this riff-raff into the room? If I had my way, I'd have the lot of you shot!

Fascism inherently eats itself. Nothing is ever good enough, by definition, to an ideology of intolerance.


Good. More parties and defections just further splits the fascist vote. Cunts.

I look forward to Rupert and Farage ripping into each other on who's the biggest arsehole on Question Time, and may all the racists remain divided on who to vote for.
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"Words ought to be a little wild - for they are assaults of thought on the unthinking."
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"Hail Caesar!"
"The Emperor arrived"
"Hail! Hail!"


Air Force 1 planes to be painted in Trump's favourite colours, gold, red, white and blue.


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The UK is all over the news this morning for bad reasons unfortunately.
Epstein, hHuman trafficking, Andrew, etc, etc.
Above all our media keeps explaining that in the UK no one is above the law.
Details of the things in Paris also starting to come out.
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