Gay?

[Tmuk]

I kissed one of my mates full on the lips once. It was a horrible, stubley experience but as a reward we got to watch his girlfriend snog her best mate which was ace, obviously

[randomdude]

Wot? You end up KISING and BUMING each other????!!???!!

They kiss each other well...not properly.

Mmmmm boysex!

We don't kiss each other! Well, occasionally he has kissed me.. and there was that thing..with his fingers... Not that I'm insecure enough to care honest

Kissing a guy really isnt something that sounds fun, it really sounds revolting. However, there are other things I could do with a guy that sound fun....

[Tmuk]

.. and there was that thing..with his fingers...

I think you had better explain yourself, young man

[gilesgoat]

Kissing a guy really isnt something that sounds fun, it really sounds revolting. However, there are other things I could do with a guy that sound fun....

Huh ... I think it all depends on who you kiss how and why ...

What about to kiss animals then ? (just a question) ..

Once I gave a soft kiss to a too cute donkey that was in pen, so
cute, it has been a nice experience

I don't think to kiss is "so bad" .. it all depends on the situations, moods,
people and such you are in

And before you ask no, I won't kiss you

[Tmuk]

Oh yeah, I kiss my dog goodnight every evening and then offer her my cheek to lick which she usually does, bless her!

[punkrulesok]

Kissing a guy really isnt something that sounds fun, it really sounds revolting. However, there are other things I could do with a guy that sound fun....

Huh ... I think it all depends on who you kiss how and why ...

What about to kiss animals then ? (just a question) ..

Once I gave a soft kiss to a too cute donkey that was in pen, so
cute, it has been a nice experience

I don't think to kiss is "so bad" .. it all depends on the situations, moods,
people and such you are in

And before you ask no, I won't kiss you

Giles is right. Kissing is just a form of affection. Why put bounderies on affection? Im not gay, but there are loads of men i would like to kiss,, aswell as a ton of beasties i would like to give a kiss to.

[gilesgoat]

Giles is right. Kissing is just a form of affection. Why put bounderies on affection? Im not gay, but there are loads of men i would like to kiss,, aswell as a ton of beasties i would like to give a kiss to.

Kiss the GOAT !!!!



... well .. I am already damned cause I already did ...

......

Awww ... please don't take it "personal" PunkRulesOk but your
quote was so appropiate for this and I had this CD handy so ...

I like your reply

Besides the CD is not bad, "Hellfire" and "Slaughter of Elysium" (no Elizian
they don't have anything bad about you ... *hugs*) are some quite
"charging" songs when you need or when you need to "relax out"
something

The CD is not "serious" .. you should see an inside photo of
the group itself ... there is a "pretend devil" with fake horns and a bad
face .. pity is difficult to take him seriously as he also handles a
fluorescent plastic water spray gun .. and it's not clear what he thinks
to do with that

Not to mention the other members of the group that look everything but
satanic

[randomdude]

Kissing a guy really isnt something that sounds fun, it really sounds revolting. However, there are other things I could do with a guy that sound fun....

Huh ... I think it all depends on who you kiss how and why ...

What about to kiss animals then ? (just a question) ..

Once I gave a soft kiss to a too cute donkey that was in pen, so
cute, it has been a nice experience

I don't think to kiss is "so bad" .. it all depends on the situations, moods,
people and such you are in

And before you ask no, I won't kiss you

It was me, not the 'girly, who said that.. And no, I wouldn't kiss an animal. I dont like being licked by an animal.. and really couldn't stand being licked on the face! Maybe a quick hug.. but thats it.

Or maybe I just havent met the right llama yet?

[everklear]

Well, maybe because it's someway "more accepted/appreciated" a
lesbian girl, even from straight people, rather than a gay male ?

I mean, apologize if someone could feel offended here, a lesbian
girl always looks like a girl, nothing much really "weird" why a
gay male looks "definitely quite strange".

Giles, I have to disagree with you on this point. You can't tell if a person is gay or not from looking at them, *unless* they are deliberately dressing in a "gay" way. Even then you're on shaky ground. I've known lots of gay women who don't dress like diesel dykes, and lots of gay men who don't flounce around in tight pants and designer shirts. On the other side of the coin, I've known straight men who you would swear were gay based on their mannerisms and mode of dress who are straighter than your average plumb line.

Stereotyping is easy. Accurate stereotyping is virtually impossible.

[PaulEMoz]

my mom didn't like it when she got propositioned by a female prostitute once

Hell, I'm a bloke and I didn't like it when I was propositioned by a female prostitute once!! And I'm not gay!

Mind you, she was truly minging. Outside King's Cross, at 5:30 in the morning, with tab burns on her legs....I was off in a shot, mate, I tell ya.

[sack]

my mom didn't like it when she got propositioned by a female prostitute once

Hell, I'm a bloke and I didn't like it when I was propositioned by a female prostitute once!! And I'm not gay!

Mind you, she was truly minging. Outside King's Cross, at 5:30 in the morning, with tab burns on her legs....I was off in a shot, mate, I tell ya.

I heard once that someone I know lost his virginity under those exact circumstances...

not sure of the truth of the matter, but it's one of those things that's funny if true

[gilesgoat]

Well, maybe because it's someway "more accepted/appreciated" a
lesbian girl, even from straight people, rather than a gay male ?

I mean, apologize if someone could feel offended here, a lesbian
girl always looks like a girl, nothing much really "weird" why a
gay male looks "definitely quite strange".

Giles, I have to disagree with you on this point. You can't tell if a person is gay or not from looking at them, *unless* they are deliberately dressing in a "gay" way. Even then you're on shaky ground. I've known lots of gay women who don't dress like diesel dykes, and lots of gay men who don't flounce around in tight pants and designer shirts. On the other side of the coin, I've known straight men who you would swear were gay based on their mannerisms and mode of dress who are straighter than your average plumb line.

Stereotyping is easy. Accurate stereotyping is virtually impossible.

Awwwww .. I see my sentence above has been a little misunderstood
that's not what I meant, ok, I try to explain better.

Of course I agree perfectly with you that "it's not the way one
dress or simply 'looking at them' that makes one say this is gay or
not".

I know myself quite some people that are gay that looks "absolutely
normal" and you'll never could guess unless you really know them
well that they are gay.

What I meant was a different thing, and of course it's a personal
opinion of mine not that is a "rule/definition", I meant simply that
while girl even if she "does her best to look manly" always look
hmmm I don't know how to say let's say "still normal enough"
a man when he starts with some (oh my I hope I won't hurt anybody
I am just trying to pick out a 'visual definition' nothing more)
"silly dressing" or "ostentative dressing" (i.e. I mean forcing to project
an image of femaleness) looks "more weird".

I did not want to say more than that, just this

Anyway I just wish to add that what "percieving of what is gay or
supposed to be gay" vary from place to place and from
culture to culture.

I am saying that because I live in Italy, north east Italy to be precise
place where the "gay phenomenon" is definitely "worse percieved"
and "less tollerated" compared to other foreing countries so what
I mean is we have also to consider that percieving and associated
meanings of something can vary very much, don't expect to find
the same kind of "vision","understanding" and "acceptance" in
every place you go.

Of course I am not saying that what people percieves/associates
have to be or is true, in many cases it's really not but
true or not that's what people would percieve and how they
would consider you won't change.

[koworld]

Smell the glove people. Smell the glove.

[cronosoft.co.uk]

I've read that most (don't recall the percentage quoted) heterosexual males experiment with homosexuality at a young age. Who knows how true it is; lord knows what it would take to get an honest answer out of most people. But if you want to raise animals, gay animals won't make you much money.

I'd pay to watch a gay chicken.

I reckon gay hamsters would sell like hot-cakes

GAY HAMSTERS? Interesting idea...

When the cage got dirty, they could say "Ooooh! Look at the muck in here!" and proceed to clean their own cage with a fluffy pink feather duster.

Only kidding...

[Harlequin]

What the hell. I couldn't resist the thread. Does this mean that I'm going to have to start posting properly again, and even answering the PMs?...

I'm quite often mistaken for a gay. Actually more men have propositioned to me than women for what it's worth

I'm usually "mistaken" for "a straight". Mind you, I'm hardly ever propositioned by people of any gender, irregardless of whether they've been informed of my preferences .

I don't understand how degree of masculinity or femininity relates to sexuality. Being a straight male I'm mostly attracted to feminine qualities in other people, and also in myself. If I was to appear or act effeminate though, that would mark me as gay, which seems like a contradiction.

Personally, I tend to be turned off by effeminacy. That's just me, though. Every person has their own preferences as to behaviour, gender, hair colour, social status, species, body shape, intimate activities, etc. to the extent that no two people have precisely the same sexuality. Moreover, these preferences are generally in a constant state of flux. In this sense, labels such as "gay", "straight" and even "bi" are at best meaningless and at worst harmfully restrictive (as humans have an odd tendency to maintain their self-images by confining their behaviour to the labels they've given themselves rather than adjusting their labels to suit their current preferences).

As ten balloons.
...Not homosexual, though.

I'm generally the opposite, I think .

Now, even when im dressed as a dude and just walking about town, people regularly mistake me for a girl.. even when I have a noticable amount of stubble.. its really quite confusing. [...]

I know that one. And I have a full moustache and goatee![0]

I saw a gay duck once...it was quite disturbing actually [...]

There have been at least two well documented cases of male swan couples in this country, IIRC.

We used to have a lesbian dog. She'd be the man while our other dog was, um, her bitch [...]

My Tara is a dyke-doggie. At a post-Henge site a few years ago she finally found another bitch who actually enjoyed being shagged by her. The two of them were happy all day .

Giles is right. Kissing is just a form of affection. Why put bounderies on affection? Im not gay, but there are loads of men i would like to kiss,, aswell as a ton of beasties i would like to give a kiss to.

I've been kissed by a few straight men[1] and I've always thought it a great complement. I also consider it indicative of their sexual security. OTOH, some men are uneasy at the very thought of being hugged by another male! Most of them, I feel, may be experiencing some emotional conflict.

[...] I meant simply that while girl even if she "does her best to look manly" always look hmmm I don't know how to say let's say "still normal enough" a man when he starts with some (oh my I hope I won't hurt anybody I am just trying to pick out a 'visual definition' nothing more) "silly dressing" or "ostentative dressing" (i.e. I mean forcing to project an image of femaleness) looks "more weird".

IOW, it's generally acceptable for women to wear "masculine" clothes but not for men to wear "feminine" ones? This might be related to the way that women can also kiss each other openly with no fear of sexual connotation. The sexual insecurity that's being discussed here seems to be far more prevalent among males in our societies.

H.

[0] Well... Not at this exact moment. They got shaved off for the play last weekend.

[1] Defined, in this context, as blokes with no desire for genital contact with other blokes.
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