This has gone far enough.

[bloid]

and now at last I can find peace again and get some CODE done!

Yay! *whipcrack*

Good luck with it Yak! Hope all the shit hasn't got you down too much!!

[Yak]

There is something else I should clarify... this isn't at all the fault of the good people over at WotR. Any unfluffiness that happened over there occurred when someone was admitted to the private forum over there and started to use it - and the people there - to stir up bad feeling. That is over now, and to emphasize that there is no hostility between us and WotR, I have decided that I want my History of Llamasoft - which I have been meaning to write for ages, based on notes I retrieved from my dad's old Mac - to be hosted over there.

My dad would have loved that idea - that the history he always intended to write will be hosted on a site that is dedicated to the games that he loved .

So watch this space - and that one - for more details about that .

\
(:-) - Yak
/

[Elizian]

Respect

[Nerdsville]

+ =

Good luck to you Jeff and Giles!

Its a sad world when you have to share your private life in such a public way just to get some peace and fluffyness. But has several people have said before let the troublemakers go 'feck' themselves, its your decision what you do with your lifes! Besides if it means you finish Unity quicker and better then whats their problem?

Andy

[No Name]

Those things you said about your relationship were lovely, and beautifully expressed. I wish you and Giles all the best.

g.

[Lifer Riley]

I have lurked over this forum for months, having been a massive fan of Jeff's back in the C64 days (there is a sound effect in the Iridis Alpha pinbally bonus game that a friend and I still have a little nostalge over), and having my excitement re-piqued by the Edge Unity issue last January. I have been content until now in my role as a Peeping Tom but finally feel I should make my first post in response to something so wonderfully said. I know how hard it is coming out to your family and friends - I had to do it myself a good few years back. In fact, having written my dissertation on it I know that it's something that the vast majority of gay people, whatever age, approach with the sort of levels of adrenalin and dread that bring to mind the sensation you used to feel between 'Get Set' and the starting pistol on the 100m sprint on school sports day. In fact it's a lot worse than that but it is early, I am only half way through my first NCoT (see-I have learned much in my time as a spy), and I need at least three for an analogy that might stir and inspire. Anyway, I too have noticed these threads recently, Mark leaving, Gabs leaving etc. but haven't dwelled to much on them as I had no idea, nor was it my business, as to what going on behind the often cryptic posts. I just continued to focus on the kind of posts I come here to read-what forumites think of Flipnic, how Unity is progressing, pictures of polish people breakdancing for the pope-you know. However, having just read Jeff's post, and realising what was behind the recent storms I felt so incensed I just had to write ((c) Daily Mail reader). Whoever is behind this petty, sniping and quite frankly aggrivating bigotry is deluded. What they don't realise is that the motivating force behind most folk coming out is one of increased confidence in themselves, typically brought about by deep happiness with someone special. The one thing that impresses me most about this forum is the strong sense of community, abiding friendship and genuine fondness for Jeff. This is far too powerful for hate-mails from a 'Viking' or the odd bout of unfluffiness to ruin, even though it may seem like it at the time. This forum shall endure! I am so very, very happy for you Jeff-because you sound like you have reached that point in life that all of us strive for, many take for granted and none should have the right, or god willing the mental problems, to want to destroy. One last thing though-please don't do be so happy and distracted that Unity slips. Well, not by much anyways.

[eb]

Respect

Very well said, Respect to you Yak and many Hugs to you and Giles. Live your Life and don't care about what the Grizzlies say.

[abducta]

Welcome lifer Riley

have a couple of sheep on me for finally having the courage
to come out of the shadowy peripherals of yakyak

[Rod_S]

Nice first post Lifer Riley, pull up a seat

Edit: I just "got" your nick. Goat I'm slow today.

[koworld]

I'm still really upset that Viking might be somebody from the WotR place, especially because the people in that part of the forum are all people I trust deeply. I'm also upset because the thread in question wasn't at all nasty. Actually it was quite gentle - people with concerns that got a bit out of hand, but honestly never nasty. That's why Mark's claim was so shocking. I'd really like Viking's IP address so that he/she can be banned from WotR or YakYak - wherever they came from.

SIDENOTE: Bloke just walked past my window, up the hill here, using ski poles. That's so great, and also ridiculous.

But we've fixed that private area now - it's back doing what it was always supposed to be doing: helping us to build the WotR magazine. Yesterday, for example, we discussed the title for a new set of columns, talked about how excited we are at the thought of a history-of-llamasoft series, and went over the articles diary for the next six months.

It means a lot to me that you've been able to reassure people that there is no ill-will between the two projects. WotR is the magazine that spun-from the Llamasoft community. It has a forum for article submission, direct article comment and for editorial discussion. It's not a community forum at all - this is our community here at YakYak.

You and Giles.

This is just my opinion, so - utterly irrelevant, but still fun to share: I'm delighted that two people have found love. Whenever, and wherever that happens is special. Sometimes friends get nervy about new people, just occasionally they are right but more often than not they haven't got a clue! You are obviously very happy in each other's company, that's a wonderful thing. I hope it lasts a very, very longtime for you two - happy is always good.

And you get masses of respect for coming out, although those choices are nobody elses' damn business - the fact that you have shows bravery, self-respect and dignity. It's all impressive.

Cheers, and here's to Wonderful Lives.

[gravy]

What an absolutely fantastic post Fuck the circustances that triggered it.

As you read through you can almost see Yak's face move from frustration and irritation to real joy and happiness as the subject turns from the recent twattery to excellent state of affairs he finds himself in now.

It's even put a big grin on my face. Wonderfull stuff

Huge *hugs* big man and massive *hugs* Gilesgoat

[Elizian]

I have lurked over this forum for months, ...

The greatest de-lurk for many a month and ...

... Welcome, Lifer Riley, to the fluffiest forum in town

[Ely]

All the best to You and Giles Yak, everyone deserves a chance to be happy, grab it whilst you can mate

[gribbles]

Not much I can add, really.

I agree with Elizian - huuuge amount of respect to you both. That post cannot have been easy to write.

I also agree with gravy - reading that post was a joy. Very concerned as I started it, with a grin spreading across my face as I got further down. I know I've only met you once or twice IRL, Jeff, but I could just picture you doing a similar thing as you wrote it.

And finally I agree with everyone else in wishing you and Giles the best of times together. Goat knows, Jeff, you've brought so much happiness to so many of us you deserve to find some peace and joy yourself.

I sincerely hope that both you and Giles have both in abundance.

[Arv]

Do i detect a slight bit of jealousy from this viking person?

Has no one any mail headers from the emails?