Love and Unity. Two of the best feelings, and it's wonderful to read that Yak has both in large quantities.
I'd like to echo what Koworld said as well. The future holds a lot of wonderful things and we can all grow stronger from times like these. Let us not ignore what happened, let us not delete it from history, let's just stand up straight and head onwards towards some wonderful times.
Now, we need a fucking good knees up to celebrate.
I won't reiterate what others have already said, except to wish you all the best and hope that the actions of a few selfish individuals won't drive you away from a place where, a few exceptions aside, most folk just want to see you happy. And complete Unity.
A man walks into a pub and goes "Aaaarghhh!" It was an iron pub.
(actually brought a tear to my eye reading your post - soppy bugger that I am )
*Bigstinkybeastiehuggles* to you both
And though you're gone, you're with me every single day believe me
When someone you love becomes a memory, the memory becomes a treasure
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Jeff. Your post was beautiful, honest, moving and brave. I think its great that you have found each other. It must be fate, you have so much in common.
All the best to you both..
Elk
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"Actually, it's not easy to become a Lama. It is very easy to get names, but it very difference to become, really, a Lama." - The Dali Lama
<gulp> Jeez Yak you've got balls. Full-on respect to you for laying your soul on the (public) line there, man.
I, like many others here, exist on the fuzzy fringe of YakYak; I read every day, post infrequently, and have unfortunately managed to be doing something else anytime there's a get-together - like Tuesday night in Bayswater, which is virtually on my doorstep, and I was busy that night.
Nevertheless, and somewhat surprisingly, I find this place (and the people in it) is/are an important part of my life. And I've been spending a lot of time this week thinking about the events on here over the last few days and weeks (people leaving, unfluffiness, etc) and trying to piece it together to make sense of it.
I never expected to know the backstory; I'm not close enough to the people involved. I was concerned that something had gone badly wrong somewhere, and hoped it would resolve itself. I never dreamed it would turn out to be something like this, and result in the need for someone to come out in public. For TWO people to come out in public, no less.
Jeff, Giles: live long and prosper. Thank you for trusting us with this. I am honoured, and humbled.
I've not posted much here, lurked a bit, but I knew Jeff some years ago, and was honoured to be able to call him a friend.
I had the pleasure of meeting Giles at the London jolly (albeit briefly) and it seemed obvious to me that you two were close. I'm so happy for you both that you've found each other, and just sorry that this kind of recent nastiness has had to occur at all.
Very best wishes to you both; I hope you find peace - and more than a little happiness - together.
A million monkeys were given a million typewriters. It's called the Internet.
I pretty much stayed out of contributing to any thread on this, prefering just to watch, think and mull. Arv has hit the nail on the head I think... someone's jealous and feels threatened perhaps that somehow Giles might well impinge on their (whoever they are) relationship with Jeff. Well "fuck you" is all I can say to that person. Jeff has his own life to lead and can go about it as he sees fit. Which is what you just doing Jeff!
Oh goat how that post of Yak's has cheered me up on this cold frosty day. Wonderful stuff, brilliant, warm and fuzzy. I absolutely love it when positivity and goodness win the day. Only those who've been at the other end in the "dark place" know why this is so important so critical to one's well being.
I'm off for a proper Italian espresso and a game of StarGate in honour of the goaty ones. Hurrah!
Yak = a really nice bloke
Giles = a really nice bloke
I wish you both all the best in the future.
Personally I usually try to avoid silly internet forum drama, I find it all a bit pointless. However in the time I've been lurking and occasionally posting on Llamasoft forums, I've been struck by how overwhelmingly nice most people here are, compared to other forums. This recent forum handbag fight will soon be forgotten.
When I read the title of the thread I was worried that something very bad was going to happen in the forum. How wrong I was! That was really a moving post, the only thing I could say to myself whilest reading was 'how sweet!' .
A lot of the people on this forum have never met Yak, or each other, I know I haven't. Maybe they never will. But we can still feel joy at each others happyness (and sadness with lifes disappointments) and your message, and peoples responses to it, have brought joy to me today.
to all the wonderful people in this fluffy corner of cyberspace.
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