This has gone far enough.

[IronGiant]

Good on you Jeff for having the guts to post that - you have a lot more inner strength and courage than those who have obviously been making life hell for you and Giles of late.

Good luck to you and Giles too of course - as long as you're happy and not hurting anyone else, then what the heck! Enjoy yourselves and be happy!

Also, whatever happens 'next', "don't let the bastards grind you down", ie please don't leave this wonderful place because of some frightened and selfish sods - that way THEY win, not you.

Enjoy yerself - and get coding!


Phil

[koworld]

Also, whatever happens 'next', "don't let the bastards grind you down", ie please don't leave this wonderful place because of some frightened and selfish sods - that way THEY win, not you.

I thought Jeff and Mark said it was one person? If so, then that's much easier to beat. One twat among 1500 can just go fuck off.

[fraggle]

I've come to this thread late, but I feel compelled.....

For 20 years I have been "only Llamasoft" and Llamasofties have been my highest priority. Now I have an individual in my life who is higher priority than Llamasofties or Llamasoft itself.
/

And that as that say is all that needs to be said. Anyone that's read Jeff's various diaries from way back when, and his llamasoft newsletter from even further back when , and his posts on his blog on here must have realized a long long time ago that Jeff leads a lonely life. Its abso-fugging-lootly marvellous that that situation has been changed now. Good on yah mate, and the very very best of luck to yah both.

(You still owe me a beer for helping you compile up deflex on the PPC2003 - now you're a couple I expect two if I ever make it to Welshland)

[ekendrick]

Well, I guess I'm late to this party, but I would like to add my congratulations to Jeff and Giles. Good on you both. /me raises his bottle of CoOp Fairbourne Springs mineral water as a toast. May you find joy in each other's company.

You both dropped enough hints though you know

As per the crap going on. I'm going to stick my tongue out, go "plurgh!", and then ignore it. There's a fine line between commentating and judging, advising and goading. People I respect and care about have been hurt, friends have angered friends. I think we should make the next Retrovision a real celebration and make it up party - we "came out to play" and all that.

I don't like bad puns.


I love em!


Oh, and Congratulations! again.

and once more, just for luck

[daedelas]

Con-goat-ewe-lations Jeff and Giles and fluffy hugs allround

[rowan]

I've thought long before posting this, very much in two minds whether I should or not. I started reading Jeff's post and realised it was very personal from the first two sentences and felt wrong to be reading it anonomously. This is someone's life, not a book. So I started reading some other threads for half an hour. After thinking about it in the background, I decided it wasn't a light decision for him to post publicly and came back to read it. I'm still morally unsure I should have done that but moreover I'm greatly saddened that you, Jeff, have had to make such a post. I've never met you but both you and your work is important to me and I'm angry you and Giles have been the victim of malignant behaviour. I sincerely hope it is behind you now and you can be yourself.

[Bogdan]

Congrats Yak and Giles.

[KevG]

(Only just catching up with the Forum...)

Huge respect to you Jeff for that brave post. It's a great shame about the circumstances that led to it but what great news! Respect and best wishes to yourself and Giles!

[IronGiant]

Also, whatever happens 'next', "don't let the bastards grind you down", ie please don't leave this wonderful place because of some frightened and selfish sods - that way THEY win, not you.

I thought Jeff and Mark said it was one person? If so, then that's much easier to beat. One twat among 1500 can just go fuck off.

I got the initial impression that it was one, but where there's one idiot there's usually one or two others. They're like flies accumulating around a corpse.


Phil

[rockwaldo]

Great news Jeff!

Good luck to you both!

[koworld]

I got the initial impression that it was one, but where there's one idiot there's usually one or two others. They're like flies accumulating around a corpse.


Phil

At the risk of losing a fluffiness point - umm, that's bollocks old son. One nutter was responsible for this and they seemed to have (happily) fucked off after droping their nasty little bombs.

I do not want anyone to labour under the impression that somewhere within the YakYak community is a seething group of arseholes looking to wreck the party - because there isn't.

[M]

Jeff, with this post you prove yet again what an honest human being you are. It is, I believe, an honour for us to be Llamasofties - thank you for all that you give to us.

Those who snipe and hurt you are nobodies. They are like they are because they lack what you have. I know this is easy for me to say when I am not the one being made to suffer but fuck 'em.

As for your news, well, what can I say? I am, quite simply, delighted for both of you!

[illlogickill]

A shedload of fluffyness Yak and Giles way

[DocDaneeka]

Ah what a lovely post and thread. Con ulations!

[dr_memory]

Geeze, I spend a few days away and stuff gets all exciting. That'll teach me.

Jef: congratulations and best of luck to you and Giles. Having done the coming-out-to-the-parents thing myself, I totally sympathize on that score, and I hope it went and continues to go well.