This has gone far enough.

clovis · Post by **clovis** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:27 pm 0

Yak wrote:
clovis wrote:
Ahchay wrote:
clovis wrote:cripes, hope you haven't got any pictures.

Can't wait to read it though, should bring back some memories. (still remember dumping a pot of yogurht over you at some point , but can't remember for the life of me why) And why would I remember that anyway... sheeshh.
Fantastic. We'd love to hear the "other" side as well if you feel like slapping a few words down

Cheers
Chris
Guess i could remember a few things, my memories a bit shite, too much alcohol in the eighties. But, I have the odd memory I can brush the cobwebs off. Nothing scandalous though i'm afraid. We were all upstanding 'Thatchers Children'.
Well, I wasn't *that* upstanding, I was still lusting after camelids, even in those days. I distinctly remember one of my PET games had a file name of "VICUNA" ...

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heh, i forgot the

yeh i remember that, we discussed it before on here sometime, probably got lost in the great purge. It was your starfire like game on the pet, vicuna was on the shuttle type ship , seem to recall that you were the only one who ever managed to shoot that thing down, hhmmm wonder why. Oh, and i recall the camelid stuff , vicunas and all that, guess imay remember some interesting factoids that could be added in to the article...

It's a long time ago but got fond memories of that time.

Post by **Snakey** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:32 pm 0

Elizian wrote:Stunning Spectrum effects, giles, ... I wouldn't have thought it possible

Oh, anythings possible - whats impressive about it is:

1. That stuff is not what anyone would call "easy" to write in Z80 ASM

(note: severe understatement)

2. I don't know of anyone who was doing that type of stuff (or even knew how) back then

Much respect to the Goat

Please say you still have the source for this stuff somewhere. Would love to play around with it under emulation

t0ne · Post by **t0ne** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:39 pm 0

Yay for Yak and Giles !!
I hope you both have many happy years together

limb_clock · Post by **limb_clock** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:40 pm 0

I'm truly happy for you all (Although i don't comprehend this thread entirelly...)

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:40 pm 0

Er - did someone mention a Llamatron score challenge or something?

_TinOmen_ · Post by **_TinOmen_** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:41 pm 0

Snakey wrote:Much respect to the Goat

Agreed! I would also love to hear more details about the tech behind z80 raytracing.

And on the original topic: Wow! Yak-Yak is definitely the most interesting place on the net right now. Jeff and Giles, you have my respect. Hooray for human diversity

gilesgoat · Post by **gilesgoat** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:25 pm 0

Hey hey *BLUSH* I think here we have another misunderstanding

These ZX raytracing piccies and such were NOT made in "pure assembler"
I was using that time the "famous" HP4T15M PASCAL compiler from
Hisoft.

There was some parts in ASM, like the dithering stuff and other parts
but the main program was written in PASCAL, I am sorry if
I gave you the impression I was a "monstrous assebler coder".

Well .. I did/do A LOT of assembler anyway, especially when after the
ZX I got my Sinclair QL (I did not tell you about my QL works yet

)
I started job in the company I am now as writer of "firmwares",
device drivers, OS portings, dealing with "weird HW" and so on, so I
can say I have a certain ASM experience

But those ZX programs were written in PASCAL, to be precise

Post by **Snakey** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:41 pm 0

gilesgoat wrote:Hey hey *BLUSH* I think here we have another misunderstanding

No problem, is still impressive

gilesgoat wrote:There was some parts in ASM

There you go then. Rock on!

_case · Post by **_case** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:09 pm 0

WOW! What an amazing post and thread!

i started work @ 10:30 and it is now 11:25 and the only thing i have done is read llamasoft

although much has already been said and said much more elequently then i ever could i cannot help but contribute my 2 cents worth..."oh no" i hear you sigh...

i too am one of the many 'lurkers', having posted a handful of times but typically just content to read and enjoy the posts and contributions of this wonderful community. I was originally drawn here because of my interest in the old 80's computing days, i was always a big fan of Yak's games. it was jeff minter's games that heavily influenced my interest in computers, vic20, c64, +4, amiga, atari st etc. i use to really enjoy reading his post in some of those 80's computing magazines in a time b4 the internet...this interest in early home computers and gameing, evetually lead to me pursueing a life as a coder, not an 'official' games coder yet but maybe one day....

So Jeff, you work has has a big and positive impact on my life and i thankyou for that. hmmm, trying hard not to sound all fanboyish but let's face it, i am a fan and i have a great deal of respect for you and your work.

for the longest time i was lonely, no one special to share my life with, i had my job, i had my code and on the surface was content but still there was an...emptyness, a sadness, a loneliness...you learn to shut it out and carry on...but then something wonderful, unexpected happened, i met someone and right from the start we both shared a...bond...we both knew that after being alone for so long, we found each other, it was and still is the happiest moment of my life. i cannot imagine life now without my partner, soulmate, lover and wife. just to iterate what many other llamasofties have said already, happiness...happiness & love are so important and when you find that special someone, do not let chance go by, do not let the naysayers and the obstacles stop it happening, life is short and you have to cherish each precious moment with those you love. and sadly, sometimes you even have to fight for it...but it is worth it!

not sure now where i was going with this post now but am glad that you and giles have found each other and may you live a long, loving and happy life togeather.

c64audio · Post by **c64audio** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:27 pm 0

Getting late on into the thread, but I'd also like to

both of you: it's great that a person so unique should find another equally unique but complementary: quite a find

Anyway, if I buy a Gamecube, it will be to play Unity. I'll be crap at it, I'm sure, but still...

Congrats, and a further thanks to Jeff for the entertainment over the years: now Douglas Adams has gone, you're the only person who writes like him left

Chris

ophion · Post by **ophion** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:35 pm 0

Having spent the day traveling, I decided to pop onto the forum to see whether I had missed anything.

It is truly a shame that there has been so much adversity lately, but Jeff's handling of the situation has once again shown that he is a fantastic human.

This thread is intoxicating!

Love and best wishes.

Oh, and I missed out on the "real name" used in one of the posts. It is a small matter, of course, but if someone were to satisfy my curiosity through a PM, then, well, my curiosity will have been satisfied.

_TinOmen_ · Post by **_TinOmen_** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:11 am 0

gilesgoat wrote:Well .. I did/do A LOT of assembler anyway, especially when after the
ZX I got my Sinclair QL (I did not tell you about my QL works yet )

The QL was 68000 right? That's an really unexplored computer as far as I know, or is there a retro scene? Love the dual microdrives

I agree with Snakey, raytracing on the speccy is very impressive no matter what language it's implemented in.

Yak · Post by **Yak** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:04 am 0

68008 IIRC, I am sure Giles will fill you in, he loves his QL... his has got a HD interface he built himself on his... I must have one somewhere, i used to have one... must find it and pass it on to him

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Yak · Post by **Yak** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:07 am 0

And at this point I would like to add that I have been really enjoying having a shit recently and reading the 68030 ref book as my enthroned reading.

I know it's sad. But it's lovely

.

CPUs. Bless 'em.

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Kemper_Boyd · Post by **Kemper_Boyd** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:21 am 0

68008 is correct, it's often lamented that a full 68000 may have
made the QL more competitive with the ST and Amiga.