First score post, seeing as I paused and restarted on level 2. Just have to get back up to speed on this game, the fish get nasty quick...
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First score post, seeing as I paused and restarted on level 2. Just have to get back up to speed on this game, the fish get nasty quick...
First score post, seeing as I paused and restarted on level 2. Just have to get back up to speed on this game, the fish get nasty quick...
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Incorrect; Crush Roller is the original game, and Make Trax is a licensed edition (which is why this is the parent ROM in MAME). If one difference stands out, it's the music at the start of a level - it's only half as long, and therefore half as annoying, in Make Trax. Little edits like that are quite frequent in localizations, basically taking the opportunity to cull something annoying out of the game or add in something useful (a good example of the latter is the differences between the Konami-original and licensed-by-Stern editions of Amidar - come to think of it, Stern edited a LOT of their licensed games).Mayhem wrote:To this day, I've not actually ever seen a real Make Trax machine (of which this a pirate).
It's a common mistake; it's easy to look at a Korean company name and think their game must be the bootleg edition. It certainly happens often enough. Crush Roller is one of the few exceptions.
Make Trax was fairly common around here in the U.S., at least in New England.
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How the scoring works:
When you crush the fish with the roller the points increase each time - 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400 then 9000. On the first level you can crush one 9000 point fish (unless you're lucky and get two with the same brush stroke) - after this the fish refuse to follow you onto the path of the roller. On the second level the points for the fish start at 100 and you can crush two 9000 point fish. On the third level the points for the fish start at 200 and you can crush three 9000 point fish. And so on.
Thus the easiest way to score big points is to crush as many fish as you can (not as easy as it sounds - the fish get a lot smarter after the first level).
I personally don't think this is points whoring in the strictest sense as it takes a lot of skill and timing to crush all the fish on any given level. I think we need a ruling on whether it is whoring or not though, just for clarity.
The replay shows how the points can rack up quickly when you set out to crush all the fish on a level.
When you crush the fish with the roller the points increase each time - 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400 then 9000. On the first level you can crush one 9000 point fish (unless you're lucky and get two with the same brush stroke) - after this the fish refuse to follow you onto the path of the roller. On the second level the points for the fish start at 100 and you can crush two 9000 point fish. On the third level the points for the fish start at 200 and you can crush three 9000 point fish. And so on.
Thus the easiest way to score big points is to crush as many fish as you can (not as easy as it sounds - the fish get a lot smarter after the first level).
I personally don't think this is points whoring in the strictest sense as it takes a lot of skill and timing to crush all the fish on any given level. I think we need a ruling on whether it is whoring or not though, just for clarity.
The replay shows how the points can rack up quickly when you set out to crush all the fish on a level.
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Alright, not quite so "Ugh". A few more plays have made it clear that it's not as bad a game as I first feared. I wouldn't want to own it, but it's alright.
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What version of mame are you using? I can not get the playback to work, I open the playback file and the game loads and then just sits there running through the demo screens.Mr Anderson wrote:How the scoring works:
When you crush the fish with the roller the points increase each time - 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400 then 9000. On the first level you can crush one 9000 point fish (unless you're lucky and get two with the same brush stroke) - after this the fish refuse to follow you onto the path of the roller. On the second level the points for the fish start at 100 and you can crush two 9000 point fish. On the third level the points for the fish start at 200 and you can crush three 9000 point fish. And so on.
Thus the easiest way to score big points is to crush as many fish as you can (not as easy as it sounds - the fish get a lot smarter after the first level).
I personally don't think this is points whoring in the strictest sense as it takes a lot of skill and timing to crush all the fish on any given level. I think we need a ruling on whether it is whoring or not though, just for clarity.
The replay shows how the points can rack up quickly when you set out to crush all the fish on a level.
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Yeh there are pink trails, it goes green pink then orange and just keeps going round those 3Mayhem wrote:Adjusting monitor has no effect... strangely though, pausing MAME causes the screen to darken and I can then see the pink trail. Weird... have to see how I can copy. Barra... are there any other pink trails later on?
For all those wanting a reply I will have one for you as soon as possible hehe, although there arent many tricks except catching the things that chase you alot because you will end up getting 9000 for 1 do that heaps and you'll be right. I guess it is points whoring but hey lol
And what Mr Anderson has written about you can only get 1 9000 pointer in the first and 2 in the 2nd etc, you can actually get as many as you want, just requires some manuvering
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Recording was made using the most recent version of MAME - 0.80. It seems as though recordings made with MAME 0.80 are incompatible with previous versions so you will need to set up 0.80 to watch the replay. Hope this helpsCyberKnightUSA wrote:What version of mame are you using? I can not get the playback to work, I open the playback file and the game loads and then just sits there running through the demo screens.
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I agree; this is not points whoring, since it is a) difficult to achieve and b) finite in scope.Mr Anderson wrote:I personally don't think this is points whoring in the strictest sense as it takes a lot of skill and timing to crush all the fish on any given level. I think we need a ruling on whether it is whoring or not though, just for clarity.
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yeh, not really points whoring, it really is the only way to get a decent score. And they do get more intelligent as people have said after to first capture.
As an aside, it would be interesting to know how many screens people have actually completed thru as well as the points score. (well to me it would).
As an aside, it would be interesting to know how many screens people have actually completed thru as well as the points score. (well to me it would).
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