Llamasoft Lleague :: Season 7 :: Week 9 :: Spectar

fflip · Post by **fflip** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:20 am 0

everklear wrote:Short, fun, can see room for personal improvement.

I thought I wasn't going to like this but am finding it pretty enjoyable in the same way. Playing with keys for precision, Q/A/O/P/Space.

lazarus2004 · Post by **lazarus2004** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:42 am 0

this games not too bad, think I'll try this a few more times
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MightyMouse · Post by **MightyMouse** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:03 pm 0

Not too sure about this game, controls are little on the wierd side. Well, more like bloody difficult.

Best of a few attempts...

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Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:17 pm 0

Zotmeister wrote:Stuff about Twin Galaxies, etc.

Twin Galaxies pisses me off. They're far too pleased with themselves. The website is hilarious - lots of self-referential stuff about what Twin Galaxies was doing twenty years ago, or which magazines Twin Galaxies has appeared in, etc., but the stuff that should be the heart and soul of the place and what everyone wants to see - video files featuring hardcore videogaming skillageness - is a tiny, shit little archive which is never updated and which contains well-known competitive games like Doom on the N64.

Robert Mrzucek seems like a nice guy (he was a big help with my Edge piece) but I hate the way he - and the other referees - don't seem to care about making verified video footage available for all to see. They should spend less time arsing about offering stupid 'bounties' and concentrate on sharing the real wealth.

Hello everyone, by the way.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:38 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:Hello everyone, by the way.

Can't keep yer neb out for even one season, can you?

Zotmeister · Post by **Zotmeister** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:53 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:Twin Galaxies pisses me off. They're far too pleased with themselves. The website is hilarious - lots of self-referential stuff about what Twin Galaxies was doing twenty years ago, or which magazines Twin Galaxies has appeared in, etc., but the stuff that should be the heart and soul of the place and what everyone wants to see - video files featuring hardcore videogaming skillageness - is a tiny, shit little archive which is never updated and which contains well-known competitive games like Doom on the N64.

You're not the only one who feels that way, and I certainly see where that opinion comes from. I also would like to see these recordings. Not to defend them, but one thing to keep in mind about TG is that they are no longer a company for all intents and purposes (at least not until they publish their next book) - they are a volunteer organization. It's quite possible that they'd love to digitize all their submissions and make them available for download, but simply lack the resources (time, manpower, bandwidth, etc.) to do so.

The Funspot had to foot the bill for TG when they ran the first four tournaments; it now runs the tournies itself, preferring to have control over various niggling issues and not needing to shell out extra bucks. FS can still draw the greats, and they still support those looking to set TG-recognized records through verifying machine settings and permitting recordings, especially during the tournaments. Bob Mruczek, head referee of TG, was absent last year but has already confirmed his presence (and his hotel reservations) for this year, so some recording may not even be necessary.

Robert Mrzucek seems like a nice guy (he was a big help with my Edge piece) but I hate the way he - and the other referees - don't seem to care about making verified video footage available for all to see. They should spend less time arsing about offering stupid 'bounties' and concentrate on sharing the real wealth.

Bob Mruzcek isn't offering TG money; he's offering money out of his own pocket. TG doesn't pay him a dime. (He works in New York's financial district, I hear; he isn't rich, but he does seem to have a little money to spare.) You do have a valid point, though - what good is setting a record if it can't be witnessed, right? TG's purpose is purportedly one of providing recognition, not monetary reward, and they should concentrate more on the former than the latter. I'd like to see some of Bob's spare cash be put towards a proper archive.

I can ask Bob about that on your behalf if you'd like. I could even do it in person in about two months. I'm sure that he'd be ecstatic regarding any ideas, and especially donations, towards the cause.

Incidentally, http://www.funspotnh.com/discus is the Funspot's forum, which Bob and myself frequent.

Many feel disenchanted by TG - I know I often do - but from what I see, they're trying. Maybe not in the best way, but they're trying. - ZM

Mr Anderson · Post by **Mr Anderson** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:17 pm 0

Improved to 64300

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:36 pm 0

Zotmeister wrote:Not to defend them, but one thing to keep in mind about TG is that they are no longer a company for all intents and purposes (at least not until they publish their next book) - they are a volunteer organization. It's quite possible that they'd love to digitize all their submissions and make them available for download, but simply lack the resources (time, manpower, bandwidth, etc.) to do so.

I hear ya, but I think they have enough of a following to be able to recruit some manpower into getting a decent video archive sorted.

You do have a valid point, though - what good is setting a record if it can't be witnessed, right? TG's purpose is purportedly one of providing recognition, not monetary reward, and they should concentrate more on the former than the latter. I'd like to see some of Bob's spare cash be put towards a proper archive.

Yeah. Exactly. I guess the bounties are fun and I admire him for stepping up like that, but as you say - recognition not reward, and what's the point, if he's the only one who gets to see the footage?

I can ask Bob about that on your behalf if you'd like. I could even do it in person in about two months. I'm sure that he'd be ecstatic regarding any ideas, and especially donations, towards the cause.

Yeah. That'd be great. I've niggled about it a couple of times on the Twin Galaxies forum - but it seems a bit sparse in there. I'd also love to get over to the Funspot Tournament myself one day...

Many feel disenchanted by TG - I know I often do - but from what I see, they're trying. Maybe not in the best way, but they're trying. - ZM

Yeah. Maybe I was a bit harsh, but it's just frustrating to hear about all these amazing performances and then not be allowed access to 'em. Bob's gameplay commentaries are always superb and I love him for keeping that spirit alive, but - ah, I dunno. I'm just repeating myself, now.

There was also talk of getting Twin Galaxies to hold some kind of UK Tournament at Retrokade. I spoke to Walter Day about that when I was researching the Score Wars feature. He said that one of the reasons that the 'World Records' are so US-oriented is that they don't really get much chance to verify overseas marathons/performances, etc. I'm sure there are plenty of Brits who could give the American gamers (I take it you're one of 'em) a run for their money...

Zotmeister · Post by **Zotmeister** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:52 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:There was also talk of getting Twin Galaxies to hold some kind of UK Tournament at Retrokade. I spoke to Walter Day about that when I was researching the Score Wars feature. He said that one of the reasons that the 'World Records' are so US-oriented is that they don't really get much chance to verify overseas marathons/performances, etc. I'm sure there are plenty of Brits who could give the American gamers (I take it you're one of 'em) a run for their money...

No doubt about it.

TG needs branch offices desperately. I understand a Japanese branch would be damn busy. - ZM

Zotmeister · Post by **Zotmeister** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:01 pm 0

I have Numpsy to thank this time for the avatar. Sorry I knocked you off the bottom of the Deadeye list, Numpsy. - ZM

Zotmeister · Post by **Zotmeister** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:16 pm 0

Okay, I managed to steal time for a game while at work, and I even used a gamepad. This'll do for a warmup. - ZM

Zotmeister · Post by **Zotmeister** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:26 pm 0

There's a typo at http://www.llamascores.org/lleague.htm - jezzace has 36, not 46. He's at the right place in the list, although it looks like he should be above me. You guys had me worried for a moment there.

- ZM

Elizian · Post by **Elizian** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:34 pm 0

Zotmeister wrote:There's a typo at http://www.llamascores.org/lleague.htm - jezzace has 36, not 46. He's at the right place in the list, although it looks like he should be above me. You guys had me worried for a moment there. - ZM

I have just spotted that and reported it to Muttley - it will be fixed ASAP.

<edit> Baaaah! </edit>

strawdonkey · Post by **strawdonkey** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:11 pm 0

Elizian wrote: it will fixed ASAP.

All your typo are belong to us

rowan · Post by **rowan** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:25 pm 0

Elizian, have you been on holiday to America or something?

YakYak

Llamasoft Lleague :: Season 7 :: Week 9 :: Spectar

my first try