I guess this is the thingMuttley wrote:I dunno, but when we played Outrun I managed to complete it with my home made arcade controller, and I never managed that on the arcade machine!
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I think part of the problem is that with certain keyboard controllers you don't get correct inputs - depending on the keys you've chosen, and some other things I haven't been able to pin down. For example, on my keyboard if I'm moving diagonally, using the arrow keys for movement, and try to change my direction of fire, nothing happens. Usually I can work around it by changing the keys I have defined for movement/firing to something else, but I doubt this would work for everybody.rowan wrote:I said earlier that 2 sticks seems natural enough to me on keyboard; what I do have a problem with is the driving games.. I've yet to find a satisfactory way to play any game that had a wheel.CharlieF wrote:A few of us have brought this up before about 2 stick games not being allowed in the Lleague. I used to play it quite a bit on keyboard/joypad before I got an X-arcade and to be honest my scores haven't improved significantly.afroken23 wrote:So er...are we agreed that Robotron is allowed?![]()
Does anyone here object to playing this game in the Lleague?
Has this ever been put to a vote?
Wev'e got to remember this lleague is supposed to be a bit of fun. In the grand scheme of things would it matter?
Or am I completely wrong?
Any tips?
All that being said, I'd be up for Robotron - if only to find out how monumentally bad at it I really am.
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Actually, I don't as a rule have the locking up keyboard problem [see my key bindings for Robotron earlier in this thread] because of my insistence on certain types of keyboard [the ones that don't do it as much!] The problem I have with the racing games is that they require some analogue wheel. The only analogue input device I have is my mouse and I can't steer with that.everklear wrote:I think part of the problem is that with certain keyboard controllers you don't get correct inputs - depending on the keys you've chosen, and some other things I haven't been able to pin down. For example, on my keyboard if I'm moving diagonally, using the arrow keys for movement, and try to change my direction of fire, nothing happens. Usually I can work around it by changing the keys I have defined for movement/firing to something else, but I doubt this would work for everybody.
All that being said, I'd be up for Robotron - if only to find out how monumentally bad at it I really am.
You can adjust MAME to change the sensitivity of the keys for most analogue games - sometimes it works, sometimes not.rowan wrote:Actually, I don't as a rule have the locking up keyboard problem [see my key bindings for Robotron earlier in this thread] because of my insistence on certain types of keyboard [the ones that don't do it as much!] The problem I have with the racing games is that they require some analogue wheel. The only analogue input device I have is my mouse and I can't steer with that.everklear wrote:I think part of the problem is that with certain keyboard controllers you don't get correct inputs - depending on the keys you've chosen, and some other things I haven't been able to pin down. For example, on my keyboard if I'm moving diagonally, using the arrow keys for movement, and try to change my direction of fire, nothing happens. Usually I can work around it by changing the keys I have defined for movement/firing to something else, but I doubt this would work for everybody.
All that being said, I'd be up for Robotron - if only to find out how monumentally bad at it I really am.
But, seriously, why not invest in a PSX-USB convertor from Play-Asia (or whoever) - $10 isn't too much to splurge is it? PSX pads are ten a penny (I've got one I will *never* use - you're welcome to it)
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I'd be in favor of permitting the likes of Robotron, Smash T.V., Total Carnage, et cetera (frankly, I'd love to see Cloak & Dagger sometime, but I'm not nominating it yet).
I can finish Stocker with my cheapo Logitech MouseMan trackball. Some analog games are best played with a mouse, some with a trackball. It's worth picking up an inexpensive USB trackball and gamepad if you're dedicated to games like these. (My trackball can actually be a liability - it's optical and can't track as fast as I can spin it, often resulting in erractic behavior in games like Centipede, where my attempts at quick escapes are very likely to fail if I spin the ball too fast. Any recommendations for a better cheap trackball?)
Now if a game required me to use a touchpad, that I'd likely bite the wax tadpole at. - ZM
I can finish Stocker with my cheapo Logitech MouseMan trackball. Some analog games are best played with a mouse, some with a trackball. It's worth picking up an inexpensive USB trackball and gamepad if you're dedicated to games like these. (My trackball can actually be a liability - it's optical and can't track as fast as I can spin it, often resulting in erractic behavior in games like Centipede, where my attempts at quick escapes are very likely to fail if I spin the ball too fast. Any recommendations for a better cheap trackball?)
Now if a game required me to use a touchpad, that I'd likely bite the wax tadpole at. - ZM
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What, including modifier keys? Someone get this poor bastard a gamepad, quick! You do have a USB port on that thing, right? - ZMmoobaa wrote:Well, the only machine I have available for MAMEing (Xbox excluded) is my laptop, which has a keyboard with a 3-key-down limit. Which is fucked for emulating two sticks.
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I have a gamepad, but the point is the Lleague is supposed to be open to everyone, not just those with additional controllers.Zotmeister wrote:What, including modifier keys? Someone get this poor bastard a gamepad, quick! You do have a USB port on that thing, right? - ZMmoobaa wrote:Well, the only machine I have available for MAMEing (Xbox excluded) is my laptop, which has a keyboard with a 3-key-down limit. Which is fucked for emulating two sticks.
Roby on the gamepad doesn't feel right, though. On the Xbox, however...
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I argue against "additional". I call it "standard equipment", as does the FAQ by implication:moobaa wrote:I have a gamepad, but the point is the Lleague is supposed to be open to everyone, not just those with additional controllers.
Even a one-button gamepad would do. You could use the pad to move and keys to fire (or vice versa) in a pinch. Requiring EVERY game to be possibly playable SOLELY with a keyboard surely isn't the intent of the Lleague. Mice are optional equipment - I have a desktop machine (Pentium 2 400MHz running Windows ME) I frequently operate without one - so I would ask dissenters to consider extending their own argument to include them... and then maybe they'll see my point. - ZMThe FAQ wrote:10. How can I avoid nominating these games then?
The best thing to do is to try and make sure that if the game once had an obscure control system, make sure it is easily emulated by using the keys, a mouse, a gamepad or a joystick. Ideally, two forms of control would be better.
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I know this off the standard / non standard equipment debates topic but I reckon there's a few people on the boards who have written old school games and some of these would be good to nominate.
I'll start by nominating 2 I wrote for the c64, they're both a bit shit but I reckon more possibly more fun than pastfinder.
The first one is called Ricochet and is a stupid break out clone which you can get here -> http://www.lemon64.com/?mainurl=http%3A ... FID%3D2139
The second is a puzzle game (why am I playing this?) which I really probably because I didn't design it
And you can get it here -> http://www.lemon64.com/?mainurl=http%3A ... FID%3D1540
C'mon then. Any other forumites who have some skeletons in their cupboard you can actually play?
I'll start by nominating 2 I wrote for the c64, they're both a bit shit but I reckon more possibly more fun than pastfinder.
The first one is called Ricochet and is a stupid break out clone which you can get here -> http://www.lemon64.com/?mainurl=http%3A ... FID%3D2139
The second is a puzzle game (why am I playing this?) which I really probably because I didn't design it
C'mon then. Any other forumites who have some skeletons in their cupboard you can actually play?
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