Football: Season 2004/5 Discussion Thread.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:55 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:Anyone think Arsenal will end up swapping Vieira for Beckham plus cash?

Would you? No, neither would I.

Unless Vieira wants to move to Spain, and rumours are that he's still thinking about it. Maybe he just wants a new challenge.

I still like Bobby Robson despite poaching our (Ipswich's) best young players. Surprised Ambrose hasn't done an awful lot though because he was incredible at times with us.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:01 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:
PaulEMoz wrote:Anyone think Arsenal will end up swapping Vieira for Beckham plus cash?
Would you? No, neither would I.

Unless Vieira wants to move to Spain, and rumours are that he's still thinking about it. Maybe he just wants a new challenge.

Well, Arsenal will definitely keep him if they can. However, it does seem like he fancies it. If he does, that'll leave Beckham stuck out on the right again, which he won't fancy. He'd be in the centre at Arsenal. Also, it would be a big "Up Yours!" to Fergie from both Beckham and Wenger, so they might fancy that as well! I don't know if it WILL happen, but I wouldn't be hugely surprised.

GeeZa wrote:I still like Bobby Robson despite poaching our (Ipswich's) best young players. Surprised Ambrose hasn't done an awful lot though because he was incredible at times with us.

Well, to be fair, he was up against a lesser class of opposition. He's looked alright at times, I think he needs to find his feet at this level. Maybe this will be a breakout season for him. If not, I wouldn't be surprised to see him loaned out in January.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:47 am 0

For the first ten games he played I wondered what on earth Robson saw in Ambrose because I couldn't see it - he was reasonably competent but too invisible on the field. Last few games of last season he started to sparkle a bit though.

koworld · Post by **koworld** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:57 am 0

And who is going to replace Ericsson when he gets sacked this week?

My money is on Wenger.

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:59 am 0

GeeZa wrote:
PaulEMoz wrote:Anyone think Arsenal will end up swapping Vieira for Beckham plus cash?
Would you? No, neither would I.

Arsenal have shown a fairly canny knack for signing players for their commercial/merchandising value (like Junichi Inamoto). In financial terms Beckham will probably pay for himself in merchandising anyway. But in football terms, it's not exactly a like-for-like swap, and he wouldn't add much to the team.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:00 am 0

Dio wrote:For the first ten games he played I wondered what on earth Robson saw in Ambrose because I couldn't see it - he was reasonably competent but too invisible on the field. Last few games of last season he started to sparkle a bit though.

Cool. I hope he does well. This is one of the 'advantages' of not being a ManUtd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. supporter. You never see your young stars blossom at the club that nurtured them. Instead you kinda end up supporting the clubs they end up in, well, I do anyway. No bitterness here. Hopefully Darren Bent will bang in some goals for us this season, if he does, and we don't get promoted, it's bye-bye once again.

Ely · Post by **Ely** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:04 am 0

koworld wrote:And who is going to replace Ericsson when he gets sacked this week?

David Beckham

Seriously I'd quite like Martin O'Neil ?? Dunno what his contract with Celtic is mind.

koworld · Post by **koworld** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:19 am 0

We've just given a trial, and this is no pisstake, to a player called:

Rod Fanni

"Bosh, I do not undershand, each time I am taking the field the fansh, they are laughter. They chant my name but do so with humor 'Fanni, Fanni, Fanni, we've got a Rod for yah Fanni' they sing. Why ish dis funny?"

The Boss gives him a copy of Carry On Camping and tells him that's where he'll find the answer.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:58 pm 0

Oh dear, Manchester United lost to Celtic. OK, so they've only been putting out half/two thirds of a team, but still, losing to a team that has been comprehensively stuffed by both Chelsea and Liverpool is not good. Maybe it's because they sold Nicky Butt to Newcastle?

I can't understand why they are playing so many inexperienced players. I know it's pre-season, and some of the players were involved in Euro 2004 and might need more of a break, but isn't pre-season the time for teams to get in gear for the start of the season? Seems odd to me.

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:24 pm 0

And Newcastle lost to Ipswich this week.

Apparently a very good game, albeit pre-season.

deadflower · Post by **deadflower** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:33 pm 0

2-1 2-1 2-1 2-1!!!!

Great game, Dale Roberts testimonial, Bobby Robson is still god.

I just want Ipswich to win the Championship and be back in the premiership, we tonked Newcastle 2-1 the other night in a friendly and our new signings (De Vos, Horlock etc...) look really good.

The squad are gelling for the season, being on Leeds, Wolves, West Ham, Forest, Gillingham, Millwall........

Yours depressed

DF

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:36 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:Oh dear, Manchester United lost to Celtic. OK, so they've only been putting out half/two thirds of a team, but still, losing to a team that has been comprehensively stuffed by both Chelsea and Liverpool is not good. Maybe it's because they sold Nicky Butt to Newcastle?

And this from a bloke who is ecstatic that Newcastle's big signing and the hope for their future is a bloke who couldn't get into the United first team

En Guarde!

M · Post by M » Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:54 pm 0

With a defence as dodgy as last season and a continuing near-total reliance on El NiÃ±o and free kicks to score, it looks like being a long haul for AtlÃ©ti again

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:56 pm 0

Zoot wrote:And this from a bloke who is ecstatic that Newcastle's big signing and the hope for their future is a bloke who couldn't get into the United first team

En Guarde!

Kluivert couldn't get into Man United's first team? Oh, sorry, I think you'll find he is regarded as a bigger signing than Nicky Butt.

He's not our "hope for the future", rather, someone that is experienced at playing a role that we haven't had filled effectively for years. So yes, we're pleased at having signed him. I think he'll do the job very well for us. You'll be alright though, you've got Phil Neville on a five year contract.

As for the Ipswich game, well done Ipswich. It seems as though Newcastle are starting out as always, namely by being absolute shite until about October. I really hope things are different once the season starts.

romanista · Post by **romanista** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:58 pm 0

mmm. roma lost 3-0 to chelsea

we're going to have a difficult season i the serie a i guess...., milan and jive being the clear favourites although inter beat juve last week in the Tim-cup...

yhe site of that tournament in us is really strange, (http://www.championsworld.com/), only giving you previews about this years' games and news about last years... and on the roma site (http://www.asroma.it) you see that there were about 6 people in the pittburgh stadium... paul, i thought you were to bring all your friends (so i expected at least 8 people present there

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