What a fucked up world this is.

[GodMedia]

The two airliners.
Bombings in Israel.
Bomb outside the Moscow metro.
The 12 Nepalese murdered.
The two French journalists being held hostage.
The siege of the school in North Ossetia.

Thank goodness that they'll probably vote Bush out of office this year. Then all of this horrible stuff will finally come to an end and we can all be happy without a care in the world.

[Foozwah]

The two airliners.
Bombings in Israel.
Bomb outside the Moscow metro.
The 12 Nepalese murdered.
The two French journalists being held hostage.
The siege of the school in North Ossetia.

Thank goodness that they'll probably vote Bush out of office this year. Then all of this horrible stuff will finally come to an end and we can all be happy without a care in the world.

Oh, very droll. At least when Bush is gone, the business interests and warmongering Christian right who have their collective hand up his ass working him like some kind of slack-jawed muppet will find it a little bit less easy to send young Americans off to die pointlessly in illegal wars, killing thousands of innocent men, women and children in the process.

Which is at least a good start, IMHO.

[GodMedia]

The two airliners.
Bombings in Israel.
Bomb outside the Moscow metro.
The 12 Nepalese murdered.
The two French journalists being held hostage.
The siege of the school in North Ossetia.

Thank goodness that they'll probably vote Bush out of office this year. Then all of this horrible stuff will finally come to an end and we can all be happy without a care in the world.

Oh, very droll. At least when Bush is gone, the business interests and warmongering Christian right who have their collective hand up his ass working him like some kind of slack-jawed muppet will find it a little bit less easy to send young Americans off to die pointlessly in illegal wars, killing thousands of innocent men, women and children in the process.

Which is at least a good start, IMHO.

Yeah! Kill children in the womb not in war! VOTE KERRY!!!

[Foozwah]

The two airliners.
Bombings in Israel.
Bomb outside the Moscow metro.
The 12 Nepalese murdered.
The two French journalists being held hostage.
The siege of the school in North Ossetia.

Thank goodness that they'll probably vote Bush out of office this year. Then all of this horrible stuff will finally come to an end and we can all be happy without a care in the world.

Oh, very droll. At least when Bush is gone, the business interests and warmongering Christian right who have their collective hand up his ass working him like some kind of slack-jawed muppet will find it a little bit less easy to send young Americans off to die pointlessly in illegal wars, killing thousands of innocent men, women and children in the process.

Which is at least a good start, IMHO.

Yeah! Kill children in the womb not in war! VOTE KERRY!!!

You actually think that the line you just wrote makes all those war deaths (on both sides) justified? That's actually disgusting. I'm genuinely disappointed in you, and more than a little sickened.

Incidentally, why did you feel the need to post something about Bush in this thread in the first place, when his name hadn't actually been mentioned in ANY of the previous posts? And in a similar vein, why post about abortion here, when that was also not under discussion?

Why do you feel the need to spread your unasked for, small-minded hate in this place? Your posts in this thread simply add to the sum total of evil in this world. You're part of the problem, not the solution.

[Rambozo]

Religion's not the problem. All the problems at the outcome of opression

But religion is oppression. And the differences that are causing the Israeli/Palestinian conflict arise from religion.

You may be religious, but you can't realistically claim that it doesn't cause violence and war that would not happen if not for the artificial differences imposed on people by the various religions.

[GodMedia]

The two airliners.
Bombings in Israel.
Bomb outside the Moscow metro.
The 12 Nepalese murdered.
The two French journalists being held hostage.
The siege of the school in North Ossetia.

Thank goodness that they'll probably vote Bush out of office this year. Then all of this horrible stuff will finally come to an end and we can all be happy without a care in the world.

Oh, very droll. At least when Bush is gone, the business interests and warmongering Christian right who have their collective hand up his ass working him like some kind of slack-jawed muppet will find it a little bit less easy to send young Americans off to die pointlessly in illegal wars, killing thousands of innocent men, women and children in the process.

Which is at least a good start, IMHO.

Yeah! Kill children in the womb not in war! VOTE KERRY!!!

You actually think that the line you just wrote makes all those war deaths (on both sides) justified? That's actually disgusting. I'm genuinely disappointed in you, and more than a little sickened.

Incidentally, why did you feel the need to post something about Bush in this thread in the first place, when his name hadn't actually been mentioned in ANY of the previous posts? And in a similar vein, why post about abortion here, when that was also not under discussion?

Why do you feel the need to spread your unasked for, small-minded hate in this place? Your posts in this thread simply add to the sum total of evil in this world. You're part of the problem, not the solution.

I was actually just having a bit of fun. I am genuinely disgusted with the big-minded hate that is spread by everybody else so I like to throw a little wrench in the works every now and then. Everyone here is so damned "superior" to everybody else, but you all just hate what isn't like you.

It struck me as funny how everyone complains about the world situation and points at everyone but themselves for it not getting better. And it struck me as funny how the very same people who would want to protect one life would just as quickly sacrifice another life if it was in their own self-interest to do so. It strikes me as funny that a faith like Islam is to be forgiven for hating and murdering in accordance with its holy laws but Christianity is never to be forgiven for the mistakes of fools who have nothing to do with the many Christians who are trying to do something good in this world. Its all just hate, but it's okay when we all hate the same thing, if anyone hates what you don't then they must be stupid and unenlightened. Therefore, I poked fun at what I find funny and got a rise out of someone and a good laugh over it.

I'm sorry if I don't hate what you all hate. It's not my fault that I'm unenlightened, I lived my own life and live by what I've seen and learned in that life just like anybody else. In all honesty, all I hate is the hate. I'm pretty much okay with everything else. But everyone always wants to be so smug about how f****d up the world is and blaming everyone but themselves. We're all too blame for this mess, just like every human has been since time began. Those who have power are to blame for misusing it, and those who don't have power are to blame for just complaining but never acting.

Instead of talking about how things should be, why not start the revolution? That's why all the bad people have the power, you know? They dared to revolutionize this world and took the power for themselves. Until someone rises up and takes them down, it won't change. Where is that revolution?

[Foozwah]

I was actually just having a bit of fun. I am genuinely disgusted with the big-minded hate that is spread by everybody else so I like to throw a little wrench in the works every now and then. Everyone here is so damned "superior" to everybody else, but you all just hate what isn't like you.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how disregarding thousands of deaths with a throwaway crack about abortion is in any way "a bit of fun."

I don't represent, or claim to represent, the people on this forum, so I fail to see where gross generalisations such as "you all just hate what isn't like you" are in any way relevant here. I'm just one person. This is my opinion. And the questions I put to you in my last post were just that, my questions.

Funnily enough though, your "You all just hate what isn't like you" assertion is a far more apt description of those at the right-leaning side of politics, and indeed of many brands of Christianity as well. My experience of people on the left-leaning side of the political spectrum, and of those from religious backgrounds spanning atheism to Buddhism, is one of tolerance/understanding/compassion for a wide variety of viewpoints, beliefs, lifestyles, etc. Whether it be homosexuality, recreational drug use, a woman's right to choose, worshipping a different god or gods, or no god at all, all these things are generally taken in their stride and accepted. What doesn't affect these people is none of their business.

Contrast that with the largely fear and ignorance-driven attitudes personified by the Christian right, of their "do what we say because only we know what's right for everyone, 'cos God told us 'cos the Bible says so" and you honestly tell me, who is it that actually hates whatever isn't just like them?

Instead of talking about how things should be, why not start the revolution? That's why all the bad people have the power, you know? They dared to revolutionize this world and took the power for themselves. Until someone rises up and takes them down, it won't change. Where is that revolution?

So...you're seriously suggesting that those who have a problem with their respective government take up arms against it?!? Oh, that'll work out just great. Thanks for the helpful advice...

Anyway, hopefully it won't be necessary in the US shortly, 'cos Bush and his Bible-thumper puppet-masters will be out in the cold anyway.

[Sickboy]

The sight of that little girl scampering away from the school siege was chilling.

Putin is too bullish to give any ground. His whole presidency is built upon being uncompromising over Chechnya.

They're gonna have to storm the place.

This isn't going to end well.

[Rev. Stuart Campbell]

It strikes me as funny that a faith like Islam is to be forgiven for hating and murdering in accordance with its holy laws while Christianity etc etc

Sorry, just a catch-up here - when did anyone propose that, exactly?

You know the only people I really hate? Wet-arsed hippy types who insist that humans are basically good and lovely and everything would be super if we could just stop arguing for a minute. We're not good and lovely. We're bastards. We've always been bastards. Like all other animals, we're designed to fight, we're designed to fear and attack those from other tribes and packs, or the competition within our own, and we weren't designed to live in such big numbers in such close proximity to one another.

You think it's a coincidence that the closer people get to one another, the less they like each other? (When did a stranger last smile at you and say "Hello" in London?) In "civilisation" we've imposed certain rules on ourselves for practicality's sake, but it doesn't take much pressure at all for them to collapse and for us to revert to the savage beasts we are a centimetre below the surface.

If you truly want the world to live in peace, the only (slim) chance is to reduce its population by 80% to 90%. And, y'know, try getting elected with THAT as your manifesto.

[russ]

If you want the world to live in peace, the only (slim) chance is to reduce its population by 80% to 90%. And, y'know, try getting elected with THAT as your manifesto.

roll up! roll up!

http://www.vhemt.org/

[Rev. Stuart Campbell]

Man! Pesky extremists always spoil everything. Vote moderate! Vote sensible! Vote only 90% of humanity exterminated! Vote Campbell!

[grue]

I've been thinking (yup, it happens sometimes) that man is the single organism on earth that if stops existing will not harm any ecosystem.
We are parasites, only taking and never giving.

[Foozwah]

It strikes me as funny that a faith like Islam is to be forgiven for hating and murdering in accordance with its holy laws while Christianity etc etc

Sorry, just a catch-up here - when did anyone propose that, exactly?

Ah, that's probably one of those odd right-winger things, where their own distorted perceptions are projected onto others who may not necessarily believe, or indeed be saying, anything of the sort.

[biggestjim]

Like all other animals, we're designed to fight, we're designed to fear and attack those from other tribes and packs...

Designed? Design is caused by a designer. Who designed us then??

[Guest]

Man! Pesky extremists always spoil everything. Vote moderate! Vote sensible! Vote only 90% of humanity exterminated! Vote Campbell!

I've pressed the vote button with your name on it, Reverend!