What a fucked up world this is.

[biggestjim]

The Rev's hit the nail on the head - the world's population keeps growing and everyone wants their piece of the pie, but the earth's resources are finite. Something's got to give, and it's going to get damn ugly when it does.

I can imagine a war for water. (now it's oil)
Btw, I think that within a couple of weeks without electricity *every* country (including the so called 'civilized' ones) would turn into total chaos/anarchy.

Back to that Russian school: I have a stone in my stomach because of that, I imagine my kids being terrorized -it's disgustingly awful.

[Orava]

The Rev's hit the nail on the head - the world's population keeps growing and everyone wants their piece of the pie, but the earth's resources are finite. Something's got to give, and it's going to get damn ugly when it does.

There is virtually no population growth in countries where moderate beliefs are common (e.g. Europe)*.

And in countries with more fundamentalist believers the population is growing rapidly.

So the nutters are going to inherit the earth.




* (with the exception of US which is the only industrialised nation with rapid population growth).

[Rev. Stuart Campbell]

There is virtually no population growth in countries where moderate beliefs are common (e.g. Europe)*.

And in countries with more fundamentalist believers the population is growing rapidly.

So the nutters are going to inherit the earth.


* (with the exception of US which is the only industrialised nation with rapid population growth).

And pretty much the most fundamentalist one, too...

[Orava]

BBC News Front Page:

"Explosions and machine gun fire heard near Russian school. More soon."

[Kronos]

I've been thinking (yup, it happens sometimes) that man is the single organism on earth that if stops existing will not harm any ecosystem.
We are parasites, only taking and never giving.

thats exactly the problem there....man is not a mamal he is a virus spreading over the planet. mamals do not destroy and exhaust the natural goodness of their surroundings...man moves in fucks it up and moves on to pastures new to ruin them. luckily the world is 2/3 water i guess

as politically incorrect as it may sound there is just too many humans on this planet and its getting worse. boiling point will be reached soon enough

[WiteWulf]

.man moves in fucks it up and moves on to pastures new to ruin them. luckily the world is 2/3 water i guess

That didn't stop Kevin Costner....

[Harlequin]

Religion's not the problem. All the problems at the outcome of opression

But religion is oppression. And the differences that are causing the Israeli/Palestinian conflict arise from religion.
You may be religious, but you can't realistically claim that it doesn't cause violence and war that would not happen if not for the artificial differences imposed on people by the various religions.

I'm religious and I neither oppress nor am I oppressed (by my religion, at least). Please do not tar all religions, or all variations of particular religions, with the same brush.

Another major cause of/excuse for conflict around the world is over-generalisation.

I was actually just having a bit of fun. I am genuinely disgusted with the big-minded hate that is spread by everybody else so I like to throw a little wrench in the works every now and then. Everyone here is so damned "superior" to everybody else, but you all just hate what isn't like you.

'All'? Is this more generalisation I see before me? And does 'everyone here' include yourself or are you, yourself, superior to the rest of us?

I don't think that I hate anyone and I'm just about certain that I don't spread hatred.

I agree with much of the meaning behind the rest of your post, however, if not the manner in which you attempted to put it across.

thats exactly the problem there....man is not a mamal he is a virus spreading over the planet. mamals do not destroy and exhaust the natural goodness of their surroundings...man moves in fucks it up and moves on to pastures new to ruin them. luckily the world is 2/3 water i guess

That is biologically untrue, of course. From a scientific viewpoint, humans are indeed mammals and are not viruses. Also, I think that numerous other mammals do destroy their environments, although not to anything like the extent of humans.

as politically incorrect as it may sound there is just too many humans on this planet and its getting worse. boiling point will be reached soon enough

I think that human overpopulation is indeed a likely root of many of our current problems, although there are possible ways to alleviate this. Even if we do, however, I feel that civilisation as we know it is unlikely to survive to the middle of this century.

H. (who still wants to be attacked by a Buddhist fundamentalist)
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* I'm easy to please as long as I get my way.

[clovis]

My experience of people on the left-leaning side of the political spectrum, and of those from religious backgrounds spanning atheism to Buddhism, is one of tolerance/understanding/compassion for a wide variety of viewpoints, beliefs, lifestyles, etc.

how far left?

russian communism

pol pot

china

shining path

hahahaha - don't make me laugh any more

[fro]

H. (who still wants to be attacked by a Buddhist fundamentalist)

is that really wise? i mean, all that kung-fu training, i don't think you'd last long

[rowan]

Everyone here is so damned "superior" to everybody else, but you all just hate what isn't like you.

You are wrong and I resent that comment.

[Dax]

Humanity should be off-world by now - exploring new frontiers, facing new challenges - in an environment where people have to depend on one another for survival as the slightest screw-up can let the environment kill you, and where you must be mindful of every natural resource.

I suppose then we'd fight about who was allowed to live on the Earth....

[Loada]

We need an alien invasion. Look at the documentary "Independence Day" and you see how mankind puts aside its petty squabbles in the face of extinction

[mamemeister]

Just watching the news about the kidnapping at the Russian school. The kidnappers have refused to accept medicine or water for the kids. I mean for fucks sake, we're talking of tiny babies and young kids, how evil and uncaring can some of our human race be.

I am so fuckin angry and sad. I personally offer to kick these fuckers to death when they come out.

Sorry for going off on one, but having a young un myself just makes it all the harder for me to accept and understand.

For fucks sake, they've just reported that 30 of the tiniest babies and infants were released because 'their crying was upsetting the kidnappers'

[Orava]

I am so fuckin angry and sad. I personally offer to kick these fuckers to death when they come out.

Sadly, I think they won't be coming out, that's probably their point.

[Foozwah]

My experience of people on the left-leaning side of the political spectrum, and of those from religious backgrounds spanning atheism to Buddhism, is one of tolerance/understanding/compassion for a wide variety of viewpoints, beliefs, lifestyles, etc.

how far left?

russian communism

pol pot

china

shining path

hahahaha - don't make me laugh any more

Err, did you actually read the post I wrote that in reply to? If you did, you might want to consider a little thing called "context," in that my words were a response to an assertion by another poster, i.e. "Everyone here is so damned "superior" to everybody else, but you all just hate what isn't like you."

So taking that into account, most people would see my comments as being about left-leaning people of the vague socio-economic background broadly represented here, since that was the actual context of my reply to GodMedia in the first place.

Note also that the work "leaning" would (to most people, but not you for some reason) seem to indicate that I wasn't talking about anyone or indeed any organisation at the extreme end of the spectrum, in any case. You know, "leaning." As in "a little bit to one side of the centre," which most of us here (whether it be to left or right), would most likely fall under the broad banner of. Note that I didn't say "standing at the extreme left end, almost over the horizon, somewhere out where the buses don't run" end of the political spectrum. (Which you nonetheless chose to interpret it as, for reasons unclear.)

Left-leaning. Ordinary folks who work a job and happen to vote Labour/Democrat or whatever. And who I would still say tend to be a bit more tolerant and accepting of others than their counterparts on the (religious) right. Which was my original point.

I'm not sure if you just missed the point because I wasn't clear enough, or whether you were just being wilfully ignorant for the sake of an opportunity to make slightly hysterical, highly innaccurate and essentially irrelevant comments. Either way, your basic assumption about what I was saying was incorrect. And kinda funny.