Football: Season 2004/5 Discussion Thread.

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gordon wrote:[edit] @Paul: I didn't even know Robson had left until today (been in Germany past couple of weeks, where the news is of Stefan Effenberg slapping women in bars), but two things Souness *is* good at are a) wheeling and dealing, and b) er... that's it. :)
Haha. Thanks for that massive confidence boost! :lol:

If he can get rid of Kieron Dyer and all the bad influence that goes with him, we might have more of a team again. But to be honest, I can see us struggling more with Souness than we did under Robson. Which is ridiculous, because we've undoubtedly got a talented squad. It's just getting the best out of them that seems to be the problem.
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Souness was largely tipped for the chop at Blackburn having fought a relegation battle last year despite a reasonably large transfer budget. His management credentials in terms of results are quite poor and it's no wonder most Newcastle fans are going "Woah??".

I dunno, it seems to me Newcastle have got him in because he's well hard. His reputation precedes him and I'm sure the players at NUFC (some more than others) are currently sh***ing their shorts already. He really doesn't f**ck about and this says something for the state of discipline at Newcastle having been managed by a gentle old grandad who couldn't control his bad-boy grandchildren. Prima-donnas will find themselves looking for somewhere else to kick a ball around.

I would imagine Souness will prevent relegation and get a tighter regime running within a short period of time. Whether the players will actively want to play for such an individual is another matter. With a good coach and tactician alongside him, he may well be perfect.
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Souness is a legend, despite being a Hun :wink:

As Rangers manager he changed the size of the pitch to upset opponents' game-plans! Bang out of order but you have to hand it to the guy!

His celebrations in Turkey are the stuff of legend - don't forget he was fired up because the opposing president or manager (I forget which) slagged him off as a cripple due to his having had a triple-bypass - Souey showed 'em!

It's a real shame his offer to buy Hearts a few years ago was rejected by their theiving wanker of a chairman - he would have been just the man to turn the Gorgie club around.

My only reservation is that he needs a crazy, confrontational environment to shine - Blackburn, for example, was too dull a setting for him. Maybe Atléti should take a look - he should be right at home here with them!
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M wrote: As Rangers manager he changed the size of the pitch to upset opponents' game-plans! Bang out of order but you have to hand it to the guy!
Hahaha. No problem with this: he could have only have changed it within the parameters set out bytthe laws of the game (cue Statto...;)) so fair play to him :D Didn't Aldo do something similar at Tranmere for those massive throw-ins ?

Ambivalent attitude towards him here on Merseyside amongst 'Poolies. He's associated with a failed team in the wake of loads of success when in actual fact he brought on a lot of players who did well for us for years after his departure.
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Many teams have done it, it's completely legal. Don't know if many teams have actually done it on a per-game basis though...
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Dio wrote:Many teams have done it, it's completely legal. Don't know if many teams have actually done it on a per-game basis though...
Yeah, as long as the pitch stays within the UEFA tolerances (and you'd be shocked at how much of a difference you're allowed), there's nothing wrong with doing something like making it thinner to thwart a team that do a lot of wing play.
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Right, now that the internationals are pretty much done with, can we get back to Defoe scoring for Spurs please? :D
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Haha. I was on the phone with my dad for the England game and I told him Defoe would score. Always nice to be proven right. :) He's a cracking little player that lad.

Haha Part 2. That Italian ref in the Wales - N. Ireland game was obscenely awful. That's the last international he'll ever be in charge of. What a disgrace!
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It had to happen. I wasn't sure about him when Spurs signed him in Jan but have been suitably convinced :D Now, hopefully we can keep him from being tempted away...

Oh, and I didn't see the Wales v NI match but the ref sounded bloody awful. Where do they get them? :?
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cyric100 wrote:Oh, and I didn't see the Wales v NI match but the ref sounded bloody awful. Where do they get them? :?
He was possibly the worst I've ever seen, even from highlights. Tell you what, when it comes to Robbie Savage, I think he's a knob, but on the other hand I kind of admire the way he plays. Everyone hates him and he doesn't give a shit, and most teams would like him in there, or at least someone like him. On the other hand, you have to smirk when he gets clattered. But the tackle perpetrated on him was fucking shocking, and his reaction was understandable, but even under the letter of the law it's hard to see why he should have been sent off.
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PaulEMoz wrote:Tell you what, when it comes to Robbie Savage, I think he's a knob, but on the other hand I kind of admire the way he plays.
Yeah, pretty much every team has a player like that. Still, he's been cutting it fine for a while and it's about time he was sent off. Shame it took a crap ref and he will feel unjustly persecuted...
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PaulEMoz wrote:[ But the tackle perpetrated on him was fucking shocking, and his reaction was understandable, but even under the letter of the law it's hard to see why he should have been sent off.
Who swung at who afterwards? I only saw a brief highlight, which looked like Savage got clattered, got annoyed, then got lamped?
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Nah. Savage got hacked down (bookable offence only) and then "raised his hands" at the miscreant (bookable offence).
The referee was a cock.
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"Liverpool Stars Hate Each Other"

- El-Hadji Diouf in The Sun, so it must be true. :D :D :D
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Zoot wrote: "Liverpool Stars Hate Each Other"
I'm with the view that players speaking thesame language are more likely to migrate to each other. It's probalby that really. I don't care really as long as they stick a few in the Onion Bag for the Mighty Reds :mrgreen:
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