Football: Season 2004/5 Discussion Thread.

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:15 pm 0

By the way - it wasn't 1-0, it was 2-0.

Oh, did I say...

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:21 pm 0

Pompey get a 1-1 draw away to Boro ... quite content with that ... Up to 11th with a game in hand

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:35 pm 0

See, that's why I hate Man Utd. If that had been any other team, Ferdinand would have been sent off in the first fifteen minutes. The decision to give a penalty for Rooney's little "stumble" was pathetic as well (although to be fari, Ronaldo should probably have had one a few minutes later).

The referee was shit, sadly.

Sounded like we had an interesting game up in Newcastle though.

Unfortunately they're showing Birmingham vs. Southampton here this afternoon.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:41 pm 0

Crikey, that was a game and a half. Looking forward to seeing the second half again on MOTD tonight.

Funny thing was, the first half we played as well as we have all season, and the second was a classic Kevin Keegan vs. Home Team game.

We were all a bit knackered at the end of it. Not sure if there's been 7 goals in one half of a Premiership game before.

I'd agree: never a penalty for the Rooney incident, but the Ronaldo one should have been. Arse.

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:53 pm 0

frak wrote:
Sickboy wrote:
frak wrote:
DocDaneeka wrote:
frak wrote:God I hate fucking arsenal and their ref bullying antics

Let's all laugh at Wenger
Pfft didnt see todays game then?
Yeah, Arsenal doing what they always do...
Something to complain about? quick, lets all gather arond the ref and make his life hell.
Was Beckham playing today then?

No, but that haranguing of Andy D'Urso is probably the most ugly and notorious incident of referee-bullying in the past four or five years.

Just a depressing game, really. Ruined by a weedy referee. Ferdinand should have gone off, Rooney should have been booked for diving.

*sigh* Just when I was starting to hate Chelsea more.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:05 pm 0

Sickboy wrote: *sigh* Just when I was starting to hate Chelsea more.

Oi!

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:55 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:
frak wrote:
Sickboy wrote:
frak wrote:
DocDaneeka wrote: Pfft didnt see todays game then?
Yeah, Arsenal doing what they always do...
Something to complain about? quick, lets all gather arond the ref and make his life hell.
Was Beckham playing today then?
No, but that haranguing of Andy D'Urso is probably the most ugly and notorious incident of referee-bullying in the past four or five years.

Just a depressing game, really. Ruined by a weedy referee. Ferdinand should have gone off, Rooney should have been booked for diving.

*sigh* Just when I was starting to hate Chelsea more.

Ah bollocks - you're just sore because you know well that Utd are going to finish above your sorry lot again

goldfish · Post by **goldfish** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:05 pm 0

Riley got both important decisions wrong in that game, and it's really no surprise they both went in Man U's favour, is it...?

The Ronaldo 'penalty' was just the final straw after getting so much else wrong in the game.

All in all, from a neutral's point of view, a potentially great game wrecked by awful, awful refereeing. IMHO of course.

Simon

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:24 pm 0

Yeah, from what MOTD showed the Arse can feel a touch aggrieved...

TFO · Post by **TFO** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:29 am 0

Riley has now given ManUre 9 penalties in games he has refereed at Old Trafford. 10 if you count 1 he gave against ManU.

In truth a draw would have been a fair result in that game - Arsenal probably had the better of the possession, but lacked a cutting edge. ManU had slightly better chances but looked less impressive on the ball.

God I hate Man United

frak · Post by **frak** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:33 pm 0

How many times in Arsenals last 49 games have they won thanks to dodgy decisions by the ref going their way (often after 4-5 players run up to intimidate the official)?.
Toure should've been booked for his dive, attempting to win a penalty in the 92nd minute. (At least Ronaldo went down for an actual foul which should've resulted in a second penalty for united)
Arsenal, no losers so sore in the premiership. If you can only get 1 shot on target in a game, expect to lose!

Liverpool, Newcastle, Man U.. I'd rather any team win the title than that bunch of sour grapes.

2-0 ?

Guru-Meditation · Post by **Guru-Meditation** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:12 pm 0

frak wrote:How many times in Arsenals last 49 games have they won thanks to dodgy decisions by the ref going their way

*cough* Pires dive 1-1 Portsmouth

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:42 pm 0

frak wrote:At least Ronaldo went down for an actual foul which should've resulted in a second penalty for united

No argument that that should have been a penalty, it's how Ferdinand stayed on the field that baffles me.

(As did how David James stayed on the field against us: he was the last man, it was a penalty - just - the ball would have been retreivable).

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:28 pm 0

frak - see, this is one of my things with Man Utd fans. Gimme sore losers over smug winners anyday. And the Arsenal comments about injustice are hardly, uh, unjustified...

Ljungberg knocks the ball ahead, he's clean through and is taken out by the last defender. By the law of the game, Ferdinand should 100% have been sent off.

What really pisses me off about this is that there's already rumblings around the FA of Wenger being hauled up because he complained about the referee being shite - but absolutely no prospect of the referee being hauled up for, well, being shite - which any non-Man Utd supporting football fan can patently see is true.

I know you can use statistics to prove anything and all that, but Riley was a dreadful choice of referee by anyone's standards. That game needed strength. He was weak.

Still, the second goal was an absolute beauty - a lovely, flowing, um, Arsenal type of move.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:54 pm 0

At least van Nistelrooy's been charged for trying to break Ashley Cole's knee. That makes a change.