Oh yes, she shall be mine..

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:47 pm 0

This baby should shake things up a bit...

http://www.access-music.de

Acronym · Post by **Acronym** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:20 pm 0

2300 Euro, though. For that money, I'd just buy two PCs and dedicate one to running Reason, and still have plenty of money left over for the audio interface in the other

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:54 pm 0

Acronym wrote:2300 Euro, though. For that money, I'd just buy two PCs and dedicate one to running Reason, and still have plenty of money left over for the audio interface in the other

Softsynths just don't cut it like dedicated hardware though - believe me, I've got some very tasty plugs on my system, but they barely get a look in compared to my Virus C. No compatiblity issues, no CPU resources to worry about - just switch on, tweak and enjoy...

eb · Post by eb » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:02 pm 0

phattslagg wrote: Softsynths just don't cut it like dedicated hardware though - believe me, I've got some very tasty plugs on my system, but they barely get a look in compared to my Virus C. No compatiblity issues, no CPU resources to worry about - just switch on, tweak and enjoy...

Well spoken.

BTW: I like this new Baby from Access:

madfiddler · Post by **madfiddler** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:27 am 0

Non of the TI's are synth plugins. They have a vst part for controlling the hardware, but all the tone generation is done on the hardware.

I guess this is the only way manufacturers can keep going with all the piracy out there.. at least bundle some kind of hardware to act as a dongle if nothing else. That's what Korg hoped with the Legacy, but I see that's been cracked now...

Post by **Snakey** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:34 am 0

eb wrote:BTW: I like this new Baby from Access:

Fuck me that looks *lovely*

polyhex · Post by **polyhex** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:09 am 0

madfiddler wrote:Non of the TI's are synth plugins. They have a vst part for controlling the hardware, but all the tone generation is done on the hardware.

I guess this is the only way manufacturers can keep going with all the piracy out there.. at least bundle some kind of hardware to act as a dongle if nothing else. That's what Korg hoped with the Legacy, but I see that's been cracked now...

Mmm it does indeed look very tasty and the way forward I think for all synth manafacturers... External hardware meaning minimal cpu load but with full integration with the audio appearing in your host like any other plugin ready for additional processing, a very clever move from the people at Access....

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:51 pm 0

madfiddler wrote:Non of the TI's are synth plugins. They have a vst part for controlling the hardware, but all the tone generation is done on the hardware.

I guess this is the only way manufacturers can keep going with all the piracy out there.. at least bundle some kind of hardware to act as a dongle if nothing else. That's what Korg hoped with the Legacy, but I see that's been cracked now...

That's because they are fools. I saw this when Korg presented it at NAMM - I asked the demo guy: "So, I guess this little controller is basically a glorified dongle, yes?" To which he replied: "No, you can use it without that if you like."

madfiddler · Post by **madfiddler** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:56 pm 0

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:15 pm 0

More TI pr0n - I haven't really got room to accomodate the 61 key version, so I guess I'll just have to settle for one of these:

rowan · Post by **rowan** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:39 pm 0

polyhex wrote:Mmm it does indeed look very tasty and the way forward I think for all synth manafacturers... External hardware meaning minimal cpu load but with full integration with the audio appearing in your host like any other plugin ready for additional processing, a very clever move from the people at Access....

Am I missing something here? I've been able to control my hardware synths via MIDI and get the audio in for further processing via my soundcard for about 10 years.

What do you gain apart from the hardsynth/plugin method is probably much quicker to set up?

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:33 am 0

rowan wrote: Am I missing something here? I've been able to control my hardware synths via MIDI and get the audio in for further processing via my soundcard for about 10 years.

What do you gain apart from the hardsynth/plugin method is probably much quicker to set up?

Time is a valuable commodity. my friend

If this works as promised, I should be able to set it up once and forget about it - as it stands, I can rarely be bothered to render things to audio, as it is quite a lot of hassle with my setup. As to how much of a difference it makes - only time will tell, I guess.

To be honest though, I'm more excited about the enhanced internal features of the Virus TI series than all the 'TI' stuff itself - I've been squeezing the Virus C for all it's worth for the last few years, and I can't wait to get my hands on the new oscillator models and programmable arp. Multi mode will also be a joy to use, now that we have delay and reverb per part and masses of polyphony

oktup · Post by **oktup** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:18 am 0

Has anyone bought/tried one yet? If so, your impressions please.

phattslagg · Post by **phattslagg** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:07 pm 0

oktup wrote:Has anyone bought/tried one yet? If so, your impressions please.

They're not available quite yet - I will be getting one as soon as they are available though, so you can be sure I'll be letting you all know how great it is soon after that

ciacio · Post by **ciacio** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:17 pm 0

There is a common misunderstanding here, IMHO.

- Hardware synths nowadays create sounds digitally, and they can't be better than software synths, apart from speed and latency.

- Latency is experienced just while you play, but a cheap computer today is way faster than your two years old hardware synth. When you mixdown your track, latency is 0.

- You don't have any noise from soft synth, you have a lot from cables used in hardware.

- MIDI is a very old protocol. You can tweak your sound with more freedom with a soft synth.

The only reason to buy a modern digital hardware synth is fetishism, and more money than brain.

The last hardware synth I've got (Yamaha AN1x) was great, but it came out when computers weren't fast enough to synthesize sounds. I've sold it when the first soft synth came out (the first one I've tried was Retro AS1, which was indistinguishable from the AN1x in quality and richness of the sounds.

If I can give you another advice, stay away from packages like reason and similar. With this kind of software the music you're going to make is already written in the system.
Go for a more flexible and conventional virtual studio, like Cubase, Logic, or the new Tracktion which is free to register for the rest of the month.

c.

http://www.cesaremarilungo.com