Unity - an announcement

jamesdacat · Post by **jamesdacat** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:17 am 0

hi guys i have been reading here for a year or so and this seems like such a momentous event i am moved to text

I would like to add a few thoughts from new zealand where sheep are thought to be re-organising into advanced structures.

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Initially, dam that's sad but im very relived that Jeff is ok... we have been getting gradually more concerned over the last 6 months...

The future, this is very good news when you think about it carefully and contemplate what's going to come of all of this, it is a momentous day in digital history that we will be able to look back on in 5 years and go wow what a great event it was in 2004 when yak yak was united, when the herd became self aware. I really hope that the work done so far might be actualised into a pc development platform and GPL'd so the collective brains we have here can take the concepts far above anything that has existed in the past.

I think that maybe this could be the magic that Gnu/Linux has been needing desperately one platform for games that stimulate the brain in strange and unusual ways... the power of sharing ideas and hacking things beyond the purpose originally intended or conceivable is amazing to witness ....the simple fact is that microsoft will not be the OS of the masses and millions (billions) of people will love you forever.

Sorry to rave on like this in my first post here but i think the potential for future awesomeness of all you guys here is just too great not to articulate and reflect on, imagine browsing fast internet data unity style.

hats off to all hugs and scritchies

SiN · Post by **SiN** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:37 am 0

and here comes another lurker from the dark ...

yep, its been around a year's worth of lurking for me, but earlier today when i popped by the forums and i read the news, i knew i had to register and say something. i was genuinly sad for a good portion of the day, and when i read the news my jaw dropped with a sense of disbelief. but yak, u simply must know that your time wasnt wasted and u've been an inspiration to us all ...

... in my case, i was introduced to the way of the yak very recently ... the first llamasoft game i played was gridrunner++, and what an inspiration it was, it was so out there, so different & creative, i immediately took notice. i took notice not only as a gamer, but also a hobbiest coder. your work has really pushed me to not only code up games which are innovative in gameplay, but also innovative in style/feel. and i kno exactly how it feels to code something for a long period of time (not 2 years in my case) and just have to let it go, its quite terrible ...

... but things are looking good for me now as, depending on how i do in university, i may be on the verge of starting up my very own game dev company ... and just as things have become better for me, they will ultimately become better for you.

So cheer up, take a break from coding, and get rev-ed up for the next coding journey of your life. no matter what u decide to do, u know we'll be there supporting you all the way!

SiN

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:56 am 0

Glad to see so many new people delurking.

Welcome aboard!!!

Jeff, a couple of questions that are probably shared by others. If they're painful to answer, then I think we all understand if you would care not to:

1) Are you still covered under non-disclosure agreements (NDA's)?
2) Where was the music going to come from? If it was already made, where will it end up?
3) What will happen with the code? Could it go open source?
4) VLM 3.5?
5) How many people (and who) ended up working on this?
6) Tempest 4000?

oysta · Post by **oysta** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:52 am 0

My thoughts are with you Jeff.

Thank you for trying.

Jamesac · Post by **Jamesac** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:52 am 0

Tempest 4k? Feh! I want Llamatron 2!

I'd personally rather not see VLM on the PSP/DS. It's a full-screen experience all the way, and shrinking it down to even the PSPs generous dimensions would lessen its impact. PS3/Xbox2/Nintendo Revolution for Unity Rebirth, please.

James

sty · Post by **sty** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:06 am 0

Yak wrote:And to be completely honest, I still believe that the best thing to come out of Llamasoft in all the years of its existence isn't Unity or any game at all or even a lightsynth: it's what we have right here, this community that just aggregated around some old coder's site and became something excellent and unexpected, a place that we all somehow call home, something that doesn't "belong" to me or to Llamasoft but something that is shared equally by all of us. This place, and you guys, helped to change my life in enormously positive ways. There is great goodness here, and I am happy and proud to be a part of it.

Yak,

firstly sorry I'm late to the news, I'm currently in New Zealand surrounded by sheep, animals I appreciate so much more since I got more involved with yakyak, so thanks

anyway, HUGE HUGS if you need them, and HUGE HUGS even if you don't.

One thing I would add to everything else that has been said, and to reiterate what you yourself have said,

Unity has bought us all together, regardless of the fact that as a game it never got off the runway as a Gamecube title.

Along the way we have watched you explore, and share you discoveries with us, the VLM footage, demos and videos are superb and always cheer me up. So thanks for this.

I bought a GameCube to play Unity on, but in all honesty I was only looking for an excuse. What it did though was got me back into gaming, I actually finished Prince Of Persia - Sands of Time !!! something I haven't done in a long time.

At the moment I am touring round New Zealand and I am not going anywhere without my GBA, currently playing Metroid Fusion, so still I am gaming.

As to the future, as long as you and Giles are secure in your coding exploits I am happy, for you, and also for us gaming voyeurs.

I'll lift a pint to you and Unity tonight, good luck for the next leg of the journey, whatever that may be

gilesgoat · Post by **gilesgoat** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:34 pm 0

sty wrote:
*SNIP*

At the moment I am touring round New Zealand and I am not going anywhere without my GBA, currently playing Metroid Fusion, so still I am gaming.

As to the future, as long as you and Giles are secure in your coding exploits I am happy, for you, and also for us gaming voyeurs.

.. and when you finished with it I HIGHLY reccomend you Zelda Minish Cap

Also, I suggest you together with the pint to hug some of the many
sheepies you have there

grue · Post by **grue** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:41 pm 0

I'm not happy but everyone of us has at some point stopped a project being the fault of a client, ourselves or even because the right ideas/resources/timeframe was wrong.

Most of us' work revolves around a subject we love and care about so when a time comes that we are unable to produce something that we'll enjoy as much or even more than the consumers, then it's bin time. Simple as that.

God knows how many unfinished paintings of Da Vinci we missed. That doesn't make him a bad painter

Hugs Jeff (with all the liberty to call you with your first name), we'll be here for you through your next voyage

abducta · Post by **abducta** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:55 pm 0

Woah i leave foe a day and what happens...

Yak your job was done just by beginning this project.

You have inspired many by sharing your vision, and willingness to strive
for what you want from the industry.

I commend you for holding on to your vision intact, by not releasing
something you are not 100% behind. (better 2 years of hope, than many of regret)

This is not the first platform your talent has outlasted and not the last.

*hugs*

and thankyou for trying

I take a drink and await your next vision.

Darkflame · Post by **Darkflame** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:41 pm 0

videokyd wrote:
disciple wrote:P.N.03's a fucking great game!
It is! It's a great game, but it wasn't exactly what the creator wanted. He was forced to rush it. How RE4 has turned out was what the creator envisioned and got. He took his time and is happy with the results.

Does it make sense now?

Yes, only I dont think he intended having to make a PS2 version...going to cause some head-itchs there I bet

. and when you finished with it I HIGHLY reccomend you Zelda Minish Cap

Second!
And SuperStarSaga of course

MadHippo · Post by **MadHippo** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:42 pm 0

Yak, dude, kudos to you for not rushing and releasing something you weren't 100% happy with. I'm gutted for you, but at the same time glad you didn't allow yourself to be maneouvered into releasing it when it wasn't ready.

All my hopes for the future..

*hugs*

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:53 pm 0

gilesgoat wrote: .. and when you finished with it I HIGHLY reccomend you Zelda Minish Cap

Also, I suggest you together with the pint to hug some of the many
sheepies you have there

Giles, have you played any of the Paper Mario games (either the N64 original or the recent Gamecube one)? I have a feeling you'd love them.

Munky · Post by **Munky** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:08 pm 0

Yak wrote:too long to be viable on this iteration.

Yak wrote:And with two beasts to share the load instead of just one, I think things will work out much better in the future. We work pretty well in parallel .

Yak wrote:And to be completely honest, I still believe that the best thing to come out of Llamasoft in all the years of its existence isn't Unity or any game at all or even a lightsynth: it's what we have right here, this community that just aggregated around some old coder's site and became something excellent and unexpected, a place that we all somehow call home, something that doesn't "belong" to me or to Llamasoft but something that is shared equally by all of us. This place, and you guys, helped to change my life in enormously positive ways. There is great goodness here, and I am happy and proud to be a part of it.

The late, great Ian Dury wrote:Reasons to be cheerful. 1. 2. 3.

After worrying about how you must be feeling yesterday, it's a great relief to read your post and see that you can find the positive aspects in all of this.

I myself, and I'm sure a great many others, can see that this will turn out to be nothing more than a bit of a hiccup in the grand scheme of things. To be honest, after 2 years you could probably do with a break and a bit of chill-out time anyway - there was a heck of a lot of pressure on you doing it all on your own.

I strongly believe that whatever comes next can only benefit from the two years spent and will blow what would have been the Gamecube version of Unity away completely.

And this place is great. I only discovered it a few months back, but it's cheered me up through some difficult times.

The future looks very bright indeed. Or maybe I should say it looks very colourful.

PVB · Post by **PVB** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:16 pm 0

Bit late to this thread, but I have an excuse.

@ Yak:
Keep coding, we'll wait.

@ Giles:
Keep Yak coding.

@ YakYak:
Hugs all round.

[PVB]

"Browney! Give me my DS you cunt!"

Dvorak · Post by **Dvorak** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:20 pm 0

Yak wrote:Research is research

Yes. It wasn't a piece of well defined financial accounting software but pure research.
And research can fail and that's part of it and no argument against research.

Good luck, Jeff, whatever you'll do next.

And hold all these tons of extreme expactations at bay we try to bury you under, ffs.