Football: Season 2004/5 Discussion Thread.

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:21 am 0

Dio wrote: Bloody well played by Liverpool though. As always, it's a different team with Gerrard in it.

Well, we're going to have to get used to doing well without him. He's off, IMHO barring a stratospheric rise up the Premiership and tonking Real Madrid 5-0 in the CL final .... Great goal though

And it was down to some nifty footwork on the flanks by the hugely overlooked Carragher. There is no way last season you would have seen moves like that from him.

I thought the subs were difference for us tonight: PingPong had his best game for us in ages, and you can't knock Mellor's goal and assist.

So yeah, last night was up there with the St Ettienne game when I were a lad

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:51 am 0

Frankly, even if you do win the Champions' League it might be hard. He's easily the best English player right now.

Roman Abramovitch raised his personal wealth by Â£2 billion last year there's nothing whatsoever to stop him waving a Â£50m cheque under Liverpool's nose and Â£100k/week under Gerrard's. For that kind of money I'd play for Man U. If I wasn't shite, of course.

I've always been a fan of Carragher's, even more so now his temper's a bit more even. I'd have him over any Neville for England no problem.

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:00 pm 0

Dio wrote:Frankly, even if you do win the Champions' League it might be hard. He's easily the best English player right now.

Roman Abramovitch raised his personal wealth by Â£2 billion last year there's nothing whatsoever to stop him waving a Â£50m cheque under Liverpool's nose and Â£100k/week under Gerrard's.

Absolutely. I'm in the 'cash in' camp. He's made his feelings clear and had an opportunity to 'clarify' his comments in the morning press after last night's game and didn't. I can't fault his logic. He's at the top of his game, 25 and needs the Big Medals. It's just that his timing together is truly awful. If he stays, great. But I doubt it: I was gutted in the summer when it looked like he was off to Chelsea but now my main concern is that we actually get enough for him.

Dio wrote: I've always been a fan of Carragher's, even more so now his temper's a bit more even. I'd have him over any Neville for England no problem.

Witnessed Carra's debut v Villa. Was booked in the first 60 seconds

That's JC but under Rafa he is turning into a truly great leader and defender IMHO.

Not getting too carried away. Everton next up

Hate derbies, me

romanista · Post by **romanista** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:41 pm 0

ajax- bayern was a great game 2-2, and we secured our third place

biggestjim · Post by **biggestjim** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:16 pm 0

Lucky Ajax.

cyric100 · Post by **cyric100** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:55 pm 0

Dio wrote: Roman Abramovitch raised his personal wealth by Â£2 billion last year there's nothing whatsoever to stop him waving a Â£50m cheque under Liverpool's nose and Â£100k/week under Gerrard's.

Nothing, except perhaps enormous tax bills and the Russian government. Well, can always hope...

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:56 pm 0

Gerrard is probably worth more

f0zz · Post by **f0zz** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:11 pm 0

Dio wrote:Gerrard is probably worth more

I have to disagree, and this is why I think he will not fetch that kind of silly money (if there is any sanity left in football that is, which I suspect not

)

Whilst his pedigree and performance potential is beyond question, Gerrard is, by his own admission, a confidence player. He has suffered various crises of this now and then. His jekyll and hyde performances frustrated Houllier and resulted in him being dropped on occasion.

On his day though, none better, which makes it even more of a shame that he can be so inconsistent, imho.

I think therefore that this should and would be reflected in any eventual transfer price.

Over to you mr. starter.

cheers
f0zz

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:13 pm 0

Not something I've seen in the last 18 months, personally. But most of the games I've seen him play since then have been against us or for England, and any Newcastle fan knows plenty about 'big game' players.

TFO · Post by **TFO** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:13 pm 0

Chelsea = stupid money

Doesn't matter what he's worth as Abramovich will pay over the odds to keep his fantasy football team going.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:43 pm 0

Everton are now just three points behind Chelsea, two ahead of Arsenal - and at least one of them will be dropping points tomorrow.

cyric100 · Post by **cyric100** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:19 pm 0

Fuck me sideways with a cortina roofrack*, we've moved above Newcastle

* - Actually, please don't.

Geenius · Post by **Geenius** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:32 pm 0

Now that the Red-shite match is over (and we finally managed to beat them again

), I don't mind posting and making my feelings known!

Admittedly we're in nosebleed territory now (mine's running, but only coz I have a cold!

), but by christ the boys work hard together. I managed to catch the last 10 minutes or so this afternoon, and we were under seige a little, but only one really scary moment when there was a goal-mouth scramble.

Europe? hope so. Champions League? lol, maybe not just yet, but the money would come in handy!

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:20 pm 0

cyric100 wrote:Fuck me sideways with a cortina roofrack*, we've moved above Newcastle

That's really not too surprising, given that our lot can't seem to be arsed to play properly.

moobaa · Post by **moobaa** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:45 am 0

I just looked at the table for the first time in aeons (no FTA TV coverage here anymore). Imagine my glee at seeing Arsenal a couple of games off the pace