Football: Season 2004/5 Discussion Thread.

Fillyourboots · Post by **Fillyourboots** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:19 pm 0

Boumsong wants out of Rangers, says 5 Live this morning.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 107031.stm

BBC Sport Online suggests slightly differently..

Remember, kids, we need (at least) two quality defenders...

f0zz · Post by **f0zz** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:22 pm 0

Dio wrote:And you can't be bothered to look at the BBC web site either?

Link ???

lazy armchair fan? smack yourself in the eye for saying that !!

<edit> fuck me, you can even get live commentary, and the second I tune in the fuckers equalize!!!

<edit 2> its almost like they're doing it for my benefit : 3-2 two minutes later.

ahh well, back to complacent past-glory mode.

cheers
f0zz

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:59 pm 0

Football. Such a painful sport.

Especially when you've got Titus Bramble in your defence.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:04 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:Football. Such a painful sport.

Especially when you've got Titus Bramble in your defence.

Give us Â£10 million for Boumsong and I'll think about it

(I'm not actually watching the game, how bad are we talking?)

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:15 pm 0

Zen-Chan wrote:Give us Â£10 million for Boumsong and I'll think about it

(I'm not actually watching the game, how bad are we talking?)

I dunno, it's not on over here, but we scored first and then two minutes later Shambles scored an own goal, and we're now 3-1 down.

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:36 pm 0

Commiserations, Moz/Dio. You looked horribly toothless, today - and losing Bellamy in the warm-up was cruel.

Thoughts:
Deffo Kluivert offside. He was clearly 'active' in the build-up play, no defenders in front of him, ball passed pretty much in between him and the other Newcastle attacker.

Fucking Bowyer protesting after that foul on Alonso â€“ and the later elbow followed by a potential leg-breaker tackle on Pongoleâ€¦ I'm so glad we didnâ€™t sign that overrated mutant.

Sad fucking Geordies with the tedious old â€œSign onâ€ shit at the end â€“ piss off home if youâ€™re bored. You were outplayed, your team is feeling like shit, sing for THEM. I thought there was a reasonable mutual respect between Liverpool and Newcastle fans, and it was hardly the kind of game that inspired any animosity. Sigh.

Still, fantastic all-round performance from Baros â€“ I canâ€™t wait to see him and Morientes in action together â€“ Mellorâ€™s clearly a stop-gap.

Some beautiful passing from Alonso â€“ I hope that he and Gerrard are gonna inspire a good run over the Christmas season.

Really nice to hear the fans shouting Kewellâ€™s name when he came off. He's getting there, and that pass for Barosâ€™ goal was a beauty.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:52 pm 0

I can't bring myself to watch this when they show it later on. Given the talented players we've got, this must be one of the most under-achieving teams in history. It's going to be a long struggle to the end of the season.

I noticed on Sky Sports that we only had four subs. I was wondering what was going on, as we only had five in the European game in midweek (the other team had seven), but if Bellamy was injured in the warm up, that would explain it.

What a shitty season.

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:57 pm 0

hahahaha..............

I don't know what is funnier:

1. Mozzie moaning about how crap Newcastle are, or

2. SB gloating over the fact that Liverpool have finally managed to beat someone (even though the team they were playing are utter poo!)

hahahahahahahaha

(Sorry boys, I don't mean it really, it's just that I've been waiting to have a pop at you both together since you ganged up on me against the great and glorious reds)

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:05 pm 0

Zoot wrote:hahahaha..............

I don't know what is funnier:

1. Mozzie moaning about how crap Newcastle are, or

2. SB gloating over the fact that Liverpool have finally managed to beat someone (even though the team they were playing are utter poo!)

hahahahahahahaha

(Sorry boys, I don't mean it really, it's just that I've been waiting to have a pop at you both together since you ganged up on me against the great and glorious reds)

I rest my case.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:28 pm 0

'kin 'ell Sol, where did that come from?

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:03 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:'kin 'ell Sol, where did that come from?

I thought that too, then the commentators mentioned that he was originally a striker for Tottenham, which to be honest I have absolutely no recollection off

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:43 pm 0

Crikey, SB, bit harsh I thought.

I mean, no doubt that we were poor, and as has been our wont this last few weeks, folded as soon as they (i.e. Bramble) scored. Bowyer did deserve to go off, although more from enthusiasm / frustration than malice (see Scholes for many similar examples).

But I thought that the way the offside rule's been played the last couple of seasons the Kluivert goal should have stood.

Liverpool mostly played well - Baros despite arguably having the Premiership's worst haircut (since Bellamy cut his).

Bellamy was injured in the warm up after the team sheet had been handed in. Officially he was on the bench but there was no chance he could have come on.

As regards chants, I'd have thought we'd have reprised the Everton home game a couple of weeks ago and settled for "Feed the Scousers." But there you go.

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:23 pm 0

I believe Newcastle lost two last night due to a bug. Dont wish anyone to be injured as such but I was mightily relieved Bellamy didnt make it. Genuinely concerned he'd rip our back 4 to shreds.

Hard luck to the Geordies anyway - no luck coming your way at the moment on the injury front at least. Bonus for us is Milan scoring. The amount of stick that lad got round here despite his Euro 2004 performances was unbelievable. He may not be a Rush or Dalglish but he's banging them in.

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:30 pm 0

Dio wrote:Bowyer did deserve to go off, although more from enthusiasm / frustration than malice.

Ah, c'mon. The first protest, maybe. But - an elbow in the back for Alonso, followed by a leg-cruncher on Pongole is a bit more than clumsy enthusiasm. I can just about bear him dribbling out his foul flob onto the hallowed Anfield turf, but it'd be nice if he didn't try to cripple our fucking players while he's at it.

But I thought that the way the offside rule's been played the last couple of seasons the Kluivert goal should have stood.

That's just the problem. Look at it again on MOTD2. Anyone who knows anything about football will know, in their hearts, that it's offside. He and the other attacker were just about as 'active' as it's possible to be. If there's a move towards favouring attackers, then why is it still a foul if you, erm, jump with the goalkeeper, win the ball fairly and then the goalkeeper falls down?

Liverpool mostly played well - Baros despite arguably having the Premiership's worst haircut (since Bellamy cut his).

Faint praise, indeed. Admit it - we didn't really have to play that well to win. I've never seen such a flaccid Newcastle performance.

As regards chants, I'd have thought we'd have reprised the Everton home game a couple of weeks ago and settled for "Feed the Scousers." But there you go.

Heh. I just have a bit of a knee-jerk to that sign-on shit. By all means, lay on the banter if you're winning - rub it in, and that. But when you've lost and played shite, it all seems a bit teenage. And a last-ditch 'Shall we sing a song for you' ain't much good if your fans have been pretty quiet for most of the game, anyway. Our fans were just bored. Y'know - 'Job done, send these jokers home, on to the next game...'.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:38 pm 0

There are plenty of players with a low level of tackling talent who let their enthusiasm run away with them. I don't argue Bowyer deserved to go off because you can't do what he did.

I'm sure I'd be moaning about the goal if the tables were turned - or perhaps not, since we were murdered and rightly so, as you say we weren't much good.

And surely you aren't defending Baros' hair. Or Sami Hyppia's mullet either come to that.