Leave it out, Paul - your posts against Manchester United are in danger of becoming Xenophobic.PaulEMoz wrote:And that, folks, is why people hate Man Utd.
The second Carroll dropped that ball, I was jumping up and down screaming that it was a goal. If I could see that in that instant, the officials surely must have. But no, not at Old trafford, no way. If that had happened to any other team at any other ground, the goal would have been given. Can't have it happen to Man Utd though, can we?
The linesman, at the very least, should never officiate in the top division again. That was an utterly disgusting decision and I'm still furious about it.
He's right, you know. It's very hard for me to say this, but the old 'Never at Old Trafford' thing has become a bit of a tiresome knee-jerk. I used to do it and, I hope, I've weaned myself off. Let's just hope and pray that we're not saying the same thing about Stamford Stinkin' Bridge in years to come.Zoot wrote:It was a goal. Full stop. As soon as I saw the ball heading towards Carroll I knew that the soft fuck would drop it. To suggest, however, that it was disregarded because it was at Old Trafford is quite simply wrong.
Thanks, son. I can now go to bed and not post like a sad tosser and regret it in the morning. Maybe I already have, but I was pretty pissed offSickboy wrote:He's right, you know. It's very hard for me to say this, but the old 'Never at Old Trafford' thing has become a bit of a tiresome knee-jerk. I used to do it and, I hope, I've weaned myself off. Let's just hope and pray that we're not saying the same thing about Stamford Stinkin' Bridge in years to come.Zoot wrote:It was a goal. Full stop. As soon as I saw the ball heading towards Carroll I knew that the soft fuck would drop it. To suggest, however, that it was disregarded because it was at Old Trafford is quite simply wrong.
It's been a pretty bad week for officials. The dead-cert Liverpool-Chelsea handball and now this - the most laughable, destined-to-be-replayed-to-death footage of a 100% goal that never was.
Again, it's the fact that the FA have retrospective punishment for incidents missed by the referee at the time, but no provision for anything similar in terms of disallowed/not given goals. I don't want to see the unpredictable flow of football broken up by video evidence for everything, but for empirically provable stuff like this, it seems way overdue.
f0zz wrote:Noooo, get away from the Old Trafford hoodoo with your philosophical musings and rational lucidity you cunt.
I love the fact that "never at Old Trafford" is a sort of weary mantra for browbeaten wannabe's, like it's the only thing left in a drunk tramps dampened crotch at midnight. I've had to chant "Only at Anfield" like a litany of doom often enough in the past.
Allow me this one fucking luxury, please. Even if our reign is over, this one vestigial legend is all we have left
Please stick to bitter vitriol, it's really bad for business otherwise, ta.
But we *DESERVED* to win. We are *MANCHESTER-FUCKING-UNITED* already.Sickboy wrote:f0zz wrote:Noooo, get away from the Old Trafford hoodoo with your philosophical musings and rational lucidity you cunt.
I love the fact that "never at Old Trafford" is a sort of weary mantra for browbeaten wannabe's, like it's the only thing left in a drunk tramps dampened crotch at midnight. I've had to chant "Only at Anfield" like a litany of doom often enough in the past.
Allow me this one fucking luxury, please. Even if our reign is over, this one vestigial legend is all we have left
Please stick to bitter vitriol, it's really bad for business otherwise, ta.
Haha. I've just seen it again. It really is an Old Trafford Conspiracy Theorist's Fantasy.
), the great and good Manchester United should lose?Zoot wrote:How on earth can anyone think that, just because the ball possibly crossed the line (and then only if viewed from a certain angle
I assume you mean only from above ground level?!? 
I was absolutely staggered it wasn't given. I jumped and screamed like a little girl when it went in (just for the comedy value) and felt the whole world had been cheated out of a magical moment when no goal was given.Zoot wrote:How on earth can anyone think that, just because the ball possibly crossed the line (and then only if viewed from a certain angle
For fuck's sake. Don't you blokes know the *RULES*?
The 'keeper, poor sod, looked like he'd just been dug up, the life simply drained from his face.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and I'm not Xenophobic. I just hate Man Utd.Zoot wrote:Leave it out, Paul - your posts against Manchester United are in danger of becoming Xenophobic.
It was a goal. Full stop. As soon as I saw the ball heading towards Carroll I knew that the soft fuck would drop it. To suggest, however, that it was disregarded because it was at Old Trafford is quite simply wrong. You are actually accusing the linesman of being corrupt.
He didn't see it. He fucked up.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GOAL.
It wasn't the first time, it won't be the last time. We deserved to lose. Shit happens.
It's football, man! It gets you passionate in the heat of the moment. Say what you like though, at times they/you seem to get a better rub of the green than anyone else. You say you deserved to lose, but you didn't actually lose. Who knows how the incorrect points totals could affect things at the end of the season?
I've never understood the 'takes too long' argument, because there's always a 4th official on the touchline. If he has instant access to a video screen and can give a quick decision, go for it. I mean this decision would have taken seconds!!PaulEMoz wrote:Video replays at games, anyone? Refs complain that it "takes too much time", but if it means the difference between getting a result right and wrong, surely it's worth it, and if it was only for disputed goals it wouldn't take any time at all.
Why, because he doesn't have x-ray vision? MOTD showed excellent footage of where he was positioned - he was exactly where he was supposed to be, up with play and ready to make an offside call if needed. When the ball got hoofed towards the goal he set off as fast as he could go, but there isn't a human alive who can run even nearly as fast as a football can be kicked, and at the point the ball went in, Carroll's body was right between the linesman and the ball, and a good 40 or 50 yards away.PaulEMoz wrote: I don't believe the linesman was corrupt, just utterly shit and totally incompetent, and he shouldn't be allowed to officiate at that level again.
fuck off man!Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:Why, because he doesn't have x-ray vision? MOTD showed excellent footage of where he was positioned - he was exactly where he was supposed to be, up with play and ready to make an offside call if needed. When the ball got hoofed towards the goal he set off as fast as he could go, but there isn't a human alive who can run even nearly as fast as a football can be kicked, and at the point the ball went in, Carroll's body was right between the linesman and the ball, and a good 40 or 50 yards away.PaulEMoz wrote: I don't believe the linesman was corrupt, just utterly shit and totally incompetent, and he shouldn't be allowed to officiate at that level again.
There was nothing the poor bastard could do, he couldn't see if it was in or not. He's not incompetent, he was unlucky. And since Spurs winning would have been floodlight robbery, all his mistake did was bring a semblance of justice to the result, and give everyone something to get all excited about. I'm not sure a man deserves to have his career destroyed for that.
Man U didn't do anything unfair. The linesman and referee got a difficult decision wrong. (Difficult in the sense of "difficult for them to see", I'm 100% sure they'd have given a goal with the benefit of TV replays.)rockwaldo wrote:[
If Man U were so deserved of not losing, maybe they should have done so fairly no?
