Football: Season 2004/5 Discussion Thread.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:50 am 0

I think even fourth is still open, myself. I don't think we'll get the consistency together to go quite that high, but there's still a very strong chance of a UEFA place.

Southampton are in big trouble though. I'd say they're the worst side we've played at home, worse than Norwich and West Brom.

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:49 am 0

Sickboy wrote:
Zen-Chan wrote:Had to laugh at the Man Utd fans singing: "You Scouse bastard!" at Gerrard - a player they'd all sell their sisters to sign and, ummm, where was their goalscorer born again?

You're missing the point, son - we know that Rooney has adequate parentage

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:26 am 0

Zoot wrote:
Sickboy wrote:Had to laugh at the Man Utd fans singing: "You Scouse bastard!" at Gerrard - a player they'd all sell their sisters to sign and, ummm, where was their goalscorer born again?
You're missing the point, son - we know that Rooney has adequate parentage

Jeez, I'd never credit Mancs with that degree of sophistication.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:57 am 0

The Wenger/Ferguson feud reaches hilarious new levels of petty insults:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 178407.stm

Some quality highlights

"One thing's very simple. I will never answer any question any more about this man," said Wenger.

Ferguson said he did not expect Wenger "to ever apologise" for his players' behaviour following the infamous food fight at Old Trafford.

"In the tunnel Wenger was criticising my players, calling them cheats, so I told him to leave them alone and behave himself," Ferguson told the Independent.
"He ran at me with hands raised saying 'what do you want to do about it?'

"Wenger is always complaining the match was not played in the right spirit," he added.
"They are the worst losers of all time, they don't know how to lose. Maybe it is just Manchester United, they don't lose many games to other teams.

Final word to Arsene: "He doesn't interest me and doesn't matter to me at all. I will never answer to any provocation from him any more."

Now now boys, someone's going to get their feelings hurt.

Personally, I nearly lost my cornflakes when I read Ferguson calling Arsenal "bad losers".

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:47 pm 0

Zen-Chan wrote:Personally, I nearly lost my cornflakes when I read Ferguson calling Arsenal "bad losers".

I know. That's just hilarious - coming from the most graceless loser in the history of the game ever.

romanista · Post by **romanista** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:03 pm 0

well, championship is over i guess afte ryesterday evening.. what are you going to do on saturday now, watch a nice game of cricket?

Geenius · Post by **Geenius** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:22 pm 0

Boro 1 - 1 Everton

I'd have settled for that before kick off. Sounded like a decent game, with chances aplenty for both sides. I'll be watching tonight.

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:19 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:
Zen-Chan wrote:Personally, I nearly lost my cornflakes when I read Ferguson calling Arsenal "bad losers".
I know. That's just hilarious - coming from the most graceless loser in the history of the game ever.

Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1
Liverpool 0 - Manchester United 1

Rooney!!!!

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:20 pm 0

Who's the naughty boy then?

Rev. Stuart Campbell · Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:27 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:I know. That's just hilarious - coming from the most graceless loser in the history of the game ever.

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Graeme Souness

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:17 pm 0

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:
Sickboy wrote:I know. That's just hilarious - coming from the most graceless loser in the history of the game ever.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Graeme Souness

Haha. Graceless not bad, guv. Credit to the opposition 'n all.

f0zz · Post by **f0zz** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:10 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:
Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:
Sickboy wrote:I know. That's just hilarious - coming from the most graceless loser in the history of the game ever.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Graeme Souness
Haha. Graceless not bad, guv. Credit to the opposition 'n all.

I'm hardly unbiased but you simply can't knock his record. I bet he's an absolute cunt to live with, I don't think I'd like him as a person, or a boss. He's dictatorial, unprincipled and downright nasty. But you don't get results and bagfuls of trophies by being some kind of benign, amiable footballing Mr. Chips, surely?

Get wi't program lad. Your soft spoken spaniard (whom the jury are still very much out on) and your erstwhile softy frenchman (who, for christ's sakes let Anelka go because he thought he might be a 'disruptive influence' on the players

) haven't covered themselves in glory by being gracious and fair-minded have they ?

Its twats like Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson who fill cabinets because they are totally and utterly obsessed with winning. At any cost. If you aren't arsed about ever going to a cup final or watching an open-topped bus parade through your city centre then keep your moral high ground and languish in mediocrity.

Otherwise enjoy the fur-fights and high-octane psychology.

cheers
f0zz

oh, and one-nil btw

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:30 pm 0

f0zz wrote:Get wi't program lad. Your soft spoken spaniard (whom the jury are still very much out on)

Hmm. Not too sure about that. he Spanish jury were/are quite impressed by the 2 La Liga's he won. Personally, I think it's far too early to judge.

f0zz wrote: and your erstwhile softy frenchman (who, for christ's sakes let Anelka go because he thought he might be a 'disruptive influence' on the players ) haven't covered themselves in glory by being gracious and fair-minded have they ?

Phil Thompson appeared to let the cat out of the bag the other day on Sky Sports News stating that LFC were up for keeping Anelka but that they found out that his brothers were touting him round Europe which brassed Ged off no end. Allegedly, of course

I would have kept Anelka and I would have taken him on again. The contract would have refelcted that we'd only expect to keep him for 6-12 months however

But, yeah, you don't get to being a winner by Mr Nice Guy.

Rev. Stuart Campbell · Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:37 pm 0

Sickboy wrote:
Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:
Sickboy wrote:I know. That's just hilarious - coming from the most graceless loser in the history of the game ever.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Graeme Souness
Haha. Graceless not bad, guv.

You've lost me there. Illustrative examples? (Hypothetical is fine.)

Sickboy · Post by **Sickboy** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:45 pm 0

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:
Sickboy wrote:
Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:
Sickboy wrote:I know. That's just hilarious - coming from the most graceless loser in the history of the game ever.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Graeme Souness
Haha. Graceless not bad, guv.
You've lost me there. Illustrative examples? (Hypothetical is fine.)

Graceless - wouldn't show an opponent respect or credit with a bazooka held to his balls.

Bad - not accepting when you've played shit and just didn't deserve to win (which Ferguson does acknowledge from time to time).

And yeah, what Kev_G said (particularly about Benitez). I'm not advocating a chirpy chappy buying fancy cake assortments for the dressing-room, but I equally don't believe that good management/motivation is based on being a hateful, crotchetty old cuntsack.

f0zz wrote:If you aren't arsed about ever going to a cup final or watching an open-topped bus parade through your city centre then keep your moral high ground and languish in mediocrity. Otherwise enjoy the fur-fights and high-octane psychology.

Hahaha. I've been to plenty of cup finals, mister. I won't bore you with the usual Liverpool fan-to-Man Utd fan trophy maths, but it does amuse me how Mancs get all fruity over the faintest slight on their beloved, rosy-nosed, Mumbling Vagrant-In-Chief.