The Official 2005 YakYak Election Poll

Acronym · Post by **Acronym** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:49 pm 0

aureole wrote:Some of them links are dead/misspelt Acro...

Fixed! Ta.

stark · Post by **stark** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:07 am 0

The Frozen One wrote: For example - how many people will come out and say "I was against the Iraq war (55%+ of the UK population apparently) so I will vote Lib Dem, the only party against the war". We will not see them get 55% of the vote.

thats *exactly* what i'm doing though

TFO · Post by **TFO** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:41 am 0

We've had one vote for BNP...

Free country I suppose.

koworld · Post by **koworld** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:43 am 0

The Frozen One wrote:We've had one vote for BNP...

Free country I suppose.

The one for Sein Fein turns my stomach more. Especially after the McCartney thing has peeled off the layer of respectability to reveal a seething pit of disgusting sub-humanity.

betamax · Post by **betamax** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:45 am 0

koworld wrote:
The Frozen One wrote:We've had one vote for BNP...

Free country I suppose.

The one for Sein Fein turns my stomach more. Especially after the McCartney thing has peeled off the layer of respectability to reveal a seething pit of disgusting sub-humanity.

And one for Veritas, put on early in the poll. That got to be a joke, right? Right?

teamonkey · Post by **teamonkey** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:48 am 0

You're going to get some degree of noise in any vote. Someone's voted for Kilroy for a laugh at some point too

I have to say that I'm quite surprised that there's more votes for the Tories than there are for the Greens though. I thought it would have been the other way around on this board. No surprise the Lib Dems have a majority here though.

betamax · Post by **betamax** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:02 am 0

teamonkey wrote: You're going to get some degree of noise in any vote. Someone's voted for Kilroy for a laugh at some point too

Read up. I already mentioned this. I really hope it was in the spirit of fun!

teamonkey wrote: I have to say that I'm quite surprised that there's more votes for the Tories than there are for the Greens though. I thought it would have been the other way around on this board. No surprise the Lib Dems have a majority here though.

Everyone likes to root for the underdog

flookster · Post by **flookster** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:22 am 0

koworld wrote:
The Frozen One wrote:We've had one vote for BNP...

Free country I suppose.

The one for Sein Fein turns my stomach more. Especially after the McCartney thing has peeled off the layer of respectability to reveal a seething pit of disgusting sub-humanity.

I can only assume that vote came from an (Northern?) Irish catholic ie the people that Sinn Fein have done an amazing amount of good work for in the last 20 years in terms of being treated as equals in a traditionally Unionist Northern Ireland. You have to remember Ko - Northern Irish catholics have been treated as 2nd class citizens for much of their history, Sinn Fein did more than anyone to turn this around. We can get jobs now

. Either that or someone who believes in Sinn Feins' desire for a United Ireland - y'know like we used to have.

The McCartney thing - well I'm sure Sinn Fein could have handled it better but you have to understand that there are aspects of the IRA (particularly in that part of Belfast) that have no allegiance to Sinn Fein/Gerry Adams and want no part of the political process. More Armalite and Car Bombs than Armalite and Ballot Box. McGuinness offering to have the killers killed was just crass beyond belief and I'm sure had some of the more political savvy Sinn Fein members wishing the ground would swallow them whole.

I've never voted Sinn Fein myself (I've never voted for anyone) but having experience of the situation here I can fully understand why anyone brought up in similar circumstances to myself would.

koworld · Post by **koworld** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:36 am 0

I was more thinking about the three Sein Fein officials actually in the bar at the time of the murder who have all said 'Was there a fight and vicious brutal murder? Gosh, didn't see a thing.'

Gerry Adams is the head of the IRA - I don't accept or believe any other version of that truth.

But I'm sure you're right in terms of the 'good work' the party, led by ex-killers, has done.

flookster · Post by **flookster** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:11 pm 0

koworld wrote:I was more thinking about the three Sein Fein officials actually in the bar at the time of the murder who have all said 'Was there a fight and vicious brutal murder? Gosh, didn't see a thing.'

Given the choice of keeping quiet and living or reporting it to the police and being found dead in a country lane with a bin liner over your head, what would you do? Or if not you, your mother or someone else you hold dear. Sadly these are the methods the IRA use to keep their anonymity.

koworld wrote:Gerry Adams is the head of the IRA - I don't accept or believe any other version of that truth.

He may well be - I have my doubts.

koworld wrote:But I'm sure you're right in terms of the 'good work' the party, led by ex-killers, has done.

You put "good work" in quotes - fully understandable but then you will never have any idea of what it was like to grow up as catholic in Northern Ireland under British oppression. You might call them ex-killers (I wouldn't be too sure about the "ex" part - you are either a killer or you are not) - I'm sure they call themselves freedom fighters. The result is the same - Northern Ireland is a better place for catholics/nationalists today.

I don't support Sinn Fein policies or IRA actions. I fully understand where you are coming from.

koworld · Post by **koworld** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:41 pm 0

flookster wrote: fully understandable but then you will never have any idea of what it was like to grow up as catholic in Northern Ireland under British oppression.

Peter Taylor put together a stunning documentary a few years back that was full of stuff most of us over here just had no idea of - especially the parts about how awful life was for Catholics in the 1950s and '60s (and hardly better in the next two decades either). I was shocked.

'British opression' is a moot point though. Unionist oppression? Absolutely no doubt. But to put the full blame for the plight of the catholics on the modern (post 1921) UK government smacks of the Irish obsession with '1641 and all that.'

In '68 (I think) when the British troops went in, it was at the request of, and for the protection of, the Catholic community. The first killings of British soldiers were by Unionists. The IRA chose to begin shooting them too as a tactical move.

The whole thing is so complicated and yes, what's non-negotiable is the fact that catholics in NI were treated appauling for decades.

c64audio · Post by **c64audio** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:22 pm 0

One vote for Veritas? I didn't know Robert Kilroy-Silk read this board

koworld · Post by **koworld** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:33 pm 0

c64audio wrote:One vote for Veritas? I didn't know Robert Kilroy-Silk read this board

And nobody have voted for the SS Party yet.

rowan · Post by **rowan** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:12 pm 0

koworld wrote:Gerry Adams is the head of the IRA - I don't accept or believe any other version of that truth.

My mother once said he was the devil incarnate but maybe it's not quite
so bad as that and you're right.

Evil, evil person.

edit: Oh yes and to destroy my faith in our voting season I received my
second county council polling card today with a different number on the
electoral role. Beaurocratic idiots that eat my taxes.

KidQuaalude · Post by **KidQuaalude** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:43 am 0

100th vote! at the mo lib dems are 51% - we can only pray we get anything like that in the election.

The Official 2005 YakYak Election Poll

Who gets your X in their box, then?