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Ken Clarke was on the radio today and listening to him
I thought that I wouldn't mind him running the country.
He's so honest and reasonable that he's barely a politician
never mind a Tory. You can't worry too much about a
man who just wants a comfy chair and some jazz to listen
to whilst he smokes a cigar with a few drinks.
It really pisses me off that you can't vote Labour without
getting Blair, and you can't vote Tory without getting the
headbangers.
I'd happily vote for a centre party with people like Ken
Clarke, Gordon Brown, Menzies Campbell. You know the
broadly honest, rational and smart politicians that are
in the minority in parliament.
I can't stand the bigoted right of the Conservative party,
or the fucking idiot fighting the battles of the 70s left of
Labour, not that the New Labour arse-lickers are any better.
Even though I'll vote Lib Dem I feel that they'd not be up
to the task. I've even quite like the Greens but their policies
are 50% common sense and 50% space-bats.
You can't bloody win. I want to pick-n-mix.
I thought that I wouldn't mind him running the country.
He's so honest and reasonable that he's barely a politician
never mind a Tory. You can't worry too much about a
man who just wants a comfy chair and some jazz to listen
to whilst he smokes a cigar with a few drinks.
It really pisses me off that you can't vote Labour without
getting Blair, and you can't vote Tory without getting the
headbangers.
I'd happily vote for a centre party with people like Ken
Clarke, Gordon Brown, Menzies Campbell. You know the
broadly honest, rational and smart politicians that are
in the minority in parliament.
I can't stand the bigoted right of the Conservative party,
or the fucking idiot fighting the battles of the 70s left of
Labour, not that the New Labour arse-lickers are any better.
Even though I'll vote Lib Dem I feel that they'd not be up
to the task. I've even quite like the Greens but their policies
are 50% common sense and 50% space-bats.
You can't bloody win. I want to pick-n-mix.
I'm completely with you on the Ken Clarke thing (and not just because he's a rabid Forest supporter). He is officially classified as Libertarian Centre-Right. Which is all about compassionate capitalism (benefits for the majority resulting from wealth creation), small government, close ties with Europe, and social justice.
His spiritual successor was...
Tony Blair.
Now that power has sent Mr B a bit mental, the real new Ken Clarke is David Davies. Once Davies is tory leader (or leader of the new Whigs or something) then I'm back in that camp.
His spiritual successor was...
Tony Blair.
Now that power has sent Mr B a bit mental, the real new Ken Clarke is David Davies. Once Davies is tory leader (or leader of the new Whigs or something) then I'm back in that camp.
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Shouldn't interstellar bats have the vote then?Kemper_Boyd wrote: I've even quite like the Greens but their policies
are 50% common sense and 50% space-bats.
You can't bloody win. I want to pick-n-mix.
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Broadly I'd agree with you, but to me it feels like wasting my vote to go for the LibDems because I know they'll never get into power...it ends up being more of a vote-to-stop-Tony than anything elseKemper_Boyd wrote:I'd happily vote for a centre party with people like Ken
Clarke, Gordon Brown, Menzies Campbell. You know the
broadly honest, rational and smart politicians that are
in the minority in parliament.
Stone
Probably the two leaders I'd would have mosted liked to see running the country - namely Ken Clarke and John Smith - never got to. The demise of Ken Clarke was the Tories undoing for a decent mainstream shot at electability. They bet the farm on the Euro issue being able to swing everything else and viewed Ken's pro-Euro stance as a potential fatal flaw.koworld wrote:I'm completely with you on the Ken Clarke thing (and not just because he's a rabid Forest supporter). He is officially classified as Libertarian Centre-Right. Which is all about compassionate capitalism (benefits for the majority resulting from wealth creation), small government, close ties with Europe, and social justice.
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It's all ok guys. This:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ ... 438453.stm
has swayed me into voting Tory. All society's ills will be swept away by the light of various gods, the nuclear family will reappear like mushrooms after the rain and kids will all start to eat their greens again, while helping old grannies across the street and getting a passing mark in maths.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ ... 438453.stm
has swayed me into voting Tory. All society's ills will be swept away by the light of various gods, the nuclear family will reappear like mushrooms after the rain and kids will all start to eat their greens again, while helping old grannies across the street and getting a passing mark in maths.
Uh huh. I was learning about how bad these corralled schools were 7 years ago in basic sociology (you know, the A-Level courses that were purposley dilute and middle-of-the-road). Do they think everyone has forgotten?Tim Collins wrote:"Parents want them. Children benefit from them. Society is stronger for them."
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I'll be voting for the party thats most likely the closet to kicking out them fucking cunts of all cunts, the Labour wankers.
Labour, really are pissing me off.
They can never own up to their mistakes.
They can never answer questions without bringing up the fucking past. We are living in 2005, NOT 1997, FFS.
Their sheer arrogance, just pisses me off.
Can you imagine going into work tomorrow, a few hours late, and then having your boss ask you
"Why are you late"
"Well, it's not about being late. Back in 1997, I was on-time, and I promised to be on time for the future."
"But, you're late !!"
"But it's not about the late. Look, I came to you in 1997...................................
Aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Then you have that fucking ugly Man-Bitch, Ruth Kelly. With her, "Forget Jamie Oliver, **I** came up with the idea long before Jamie" arrogance.
Why are all the woman in Labour, such fucking ugly woman ?
Please, as a nation, we cannot put them cunts back in power. We would be no better than the Americans putting Bush back in power.
I'm quite prepared to at least give the Tories, a single term in power.
Liberal, haven't got a chance in hell. Besides, Charles Kennedy comes off as a bit of a twat. And he's certainly a poor diplotmat for our country.
Can you imagine having that bloke standing next to Bush ?
At least with Blair, we can't see the strings. With Kennedy, we'd not only see the strings, we'd see the bloke whose holding them up.
"Yes Mr Bush", "No Mr Bush" , "Can I have a drink, now ?" hic !
Sorry, Rant off.
Labour, really are pissing me off.
They can never own up to their mistakes.
They can never answer questions without bringing up the fucking past. We are living in 2005, NOT 1997, FFS.
Their sheer arrogance, just pisses me off.
Can you imagine going into work tomorrow, a few hours late, and then having your boss ask you
"Why are you late"
"Well, it's not about being late. Back in 1997, I was on-time, and I promised to be on time for the future."
"But, you're late !!"
"But it's not about the late. Look, I came to you in 1997...................................
Aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Then you have that fucking ugly Man-Bitch, Ruth Kelly. With her, "Forget Jamie Oliver, **I** came up with the idea long before Jamie" arrogance.
Why are all the woman in Labour, such fucking ugly woman ?
Please, as a nation, we cannot put them cunts back in power. We would be no better than the Americans putting Bush back in power.
I'm quite prepared to at least give the Tories, a single term in power.
Liberal, haven't got a chance in hell. Besides, Charles Kennedy comes off as a bit of a twat. And he's certainly a poor diplotmat for our country.
Can you imagine having that bloke standing next to Bush ?
At least with Blair, we can't see the strings. With Kennedy, we'd not only see the strings, we'd see the bloke whose holding them up.
"Yes Mr Bush", "No Mr Bush" , "Can I have a drink, now ?" hic !
Sorry, Rant off.
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I have vowed to leave the country if the tories get in. Listening to the father of the poll tax talking about how labour will make us pay more tax, makes me want to smash things (his fucking face prefeerably). I think anyone believing Michael Howards fairy stories may be in for a nasty shock if the tories do actually get in.D.K. Tronics wrote: I'm quite prepared to at least give the Tories, a single term in power.
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John Smith is a great lost leader, as is David Steel.
The Tories have just *hurled* electable leaders away - Ken Clarke, Michael Portillo (once he realised that at heart he was actually a liberal - ie, once he came out), Michael Heseltine, even Malcolm Rifkind (though he's being parachuted into Kensington and Chelsea and straight onto the shadow front-bench.) Even Hague would have been alright if he'd taken over now, rather than when he did.
They must have a masochistic streak.
The Tories have just *hurled* electable leaders away - Ken Clarke, Michael Portillo (once he realised that at heart he was actually a liberal - ie, once he came out), Michael Heseltine, even Malcolm Rifkind (though he's being parachuted into Kensington and Chelsea and straight onto the shadow front-bench.) Even Hague would have been alright if he'd taken over now, rather than when he did.
They must have a masochistic streak.
I wouldn't leave the country but I agree absolutely with those sentiments. It's shocking how short people's memories are, and how they're prepared to leap from fire to frying pan and back again like demented sausages. It's Michael Howard for goodness sake!Ratsoap wrote:I think anyone believing Michael Howards fairy stories may be in for a nasty shock if the tories do actually get in.D.K. Tronics wrote: I'm quite prepared to at least give the Tories, a single term in power.
Not sure about Clarke. He's affable but he was/is in far too many corperate pockets. Heseltine was too old by the time they finally dumped Thatcher but, yes, leadership quality in abundance. I was godsmacked when Portillo said he was resigned from front line politics - I had him pegged as the next tory PM plus one. Hague, I think, will be back in due course - after whoever comes after Howard.Acronym wrote:The Tories have just *hurled* electable leaders away - Ken Clarke
Not sure about Steel. From the Lib(dem) benches I would have nominated Owen, Ashdown and maybe Ming.