Football: WORLD CUP 06 and close season/transfer discussion.

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:43 pm 0

....and now Ambrose is gone. And still no sign of any more new players. At this rate, we'll be starting the season with no substitutes!

pd · Post by pd » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:53 pm 0

i8manx wrote:
pd wrote:
i8manx wrote:
Zoot wrote:BBC NEWS ticker reporting that Carragher and some dude called Gerrard have signed contract extensions. No linky yet.
Yay!.....and breathe out
Bad move for Liverpool signing Gerard.
yes, keeping a world class player on your books is always a mistake.

Check out the facts... The stats with and without him playing - you may well be surprised. (Last season this is) Liverpool wanted him to go, even he knew it - they were sure they'd be better off without him and Â£35mil + to play with. He/they just didn't have the balls to see it through at the end of the day, much like Vieira (and look at his performances in the first few months of last season).

mac monkey · Post by **mac monkey** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:34 pm 0

pd wrote:
i8manx wrote:
yes, keeping a world class player on your books is always a mistake.
Check out the facts... The stats with and without him playing - you may well be surprised. (Last season this is) Liverpool wanted him to go, even he knew it - they were sure they'd be better off without him and Â£35mil + to play with. He/they just didn't have the balls to see it through at the end of the day, much like Vieira (and look at his performances in the first few months of last season).

i don't need to look, most people who have taken any interest in this story already know 'the stats'.
Fact is SG has been at LFC since he was 8, local lad, playing for his childhood club.
Statistically SG is a world class player, so i think we will just keep to these facts at the moment thanks.

As per Viera, i don't think he's from North London, so maybe he might not be so passionate about playing for his club (ie; money led)

SG will be a much better player this season and beyond, and as most LFC fans are glad he is playing for us, and not against us

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:19 pm 0

PaulEMoz wrote:....and now Ambrose is gone. And still no sign of any more new players. At this rate, we'll be starting the season with no substitutes!

You can have Diao if yuo ask Mr Parry nicely...

most LFC fans are glad he is playing for us, and not against us

Yup. That's the nub of it I think. I couldn't help thinking at the beginning of the week about how SG would come back to haunt us if he went to Chelsea. You just knew it was going to happen ...

Zoot · Post by **Zoot** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:09 pm 0

Tough Draw for the Magpies

Deportivo? Yikes!

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:12 pm 0

Not sure it could have been that much easier really. The Intertoto is a mickey mouse competition but with some very big clubs in it.

romanista · Post by **romanista** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:05 pm 0

damn i'm missing football, only competition going on is the brasileirao..

fluminense defeated botafogo 2-1 yesterday to claim the leadership with pronte preta (sp). They didn't play in the Maracana, but in Volte Redonda, about 120 km from rio... (they often do that, but as flu-bota is a derby i didn't expect too... )

when i was ion rio in march i did saw fluminense live at the maracana- losing to vasco, but a new love was born..

robinho is now to be said (according to terra.com.br) heading for Madrid for sure .85 million reais (23 million euros)

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:38 pm 0

Dio wrote:Not sure it could have been that much easier really. The Intertoto is a mickey mouse competition but with some very big clubs in it.

Plus we're more likely to lose to one of the Mickey Mouse clubs anyway.

Especially if we don't sign some more players!

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:42 pm 0

I think it'd be good for Newcastle to take a season off Europe; I'm only 50-50 that it's good that 'boro are in the competition.

Zen-Chan · Post by **Zen-Chan** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:43 pm 0

romanista wrote:damn i'm missing football

I feel your pain.

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:50 pm 0

aureole wrote:I think it'd be good for Newcastle to take a season off Europe; I'm only 50-50 that it's good that 'boro are in the competition.

I've often debated this here wrt LFC. You sort of don't want to get humilated and/or take your eye off the domestic league. I think in the end I plumped for I'd rather be in it than not. If you've got young/inexperienced players in your squad and you make it through a few rounds I reckon it's got to stand you in good stead.

Apropos of nothing I paid a visit to the TNS site. There's a banner towards the top of the main page announcing the forthcoming game. Either side of the lettering is a picture of the two captains hoisting up their respective trophies. Great image. I love that.

I still reckon it's a potential banana skin for us if we don't accord them the respect they deserve. Wrexham put three past us at the weekend, after all. We should win but this Liverpool team is full of surprises ...

PaulEMoz · Post by **PaulEMoz** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:57 pm 0

I'd rather be in it, because when our lot are playing competitive football earlier instead of friendlies, they tend to start the season better. I'm hoping this will be the case this time. I'm sick of being in the bottom three at the end of August every year. Although, looking at our fixture list, it's likely that will happen regardless.

Still, must look on the bright side, it might get us a better manager in!

aureole · Post by **aureole** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:24 pm 0

Post-europe league hangovers cost boro, 'pool and the toon badly last year I reckon, though that's a fair bit of speculation on my part. 's funny, though, 'cos a season in europe tends to knacker the league performance of a lot of teams, and so they tend to yo-yo season-on-season.

KevG · Post by **KevG** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:29 pm 0

aureole wrote:Post-europe league hangovers cost boro, 'pool and the toon badly last year I reckon, though that's a fair bit of speculation on my part. 's funny, though, 'cos a season in europe tends to knacker the league performance of a lot of teams, and so they tend to yo-yo season-on-season.

Yeah. I think there's something in that. I'm hoping our lot can sort the domestic side out a bit this year

Like watching two different teams on occasion...same names; different (worse) performances.
Especially away.

Dio · Post by **Dio** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:39 pm 0

My perception is that we tended to play better after Europe games than when there weren't any - if you look at the two strong bits of our season last year they were both during the cup run.

It's definitely possible we'd have done better over the whole season without Europe - Mr.Shearer not being quite so tired for one.